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To: muawiyah
Discussing this exact same issue elsewhere (the runaway rate of violent crime in Europe) I discovered the Brits don't want us to count street hooliganism as violent crime ~ even if they do curb stomp victims and leave people paralyzed or maimed for life.

Strange discovering the Brits want to protect some crimes!

I recall reading that the rates of strong-arm robberies and home invasion style robberies, where the owners are home, are far higher in England than the US. This, of course is never reported. The question is "why?" While the convicted criminals in England haven't been interviewed, there have been a number of publicized interviews with convicted criminals stating that they're a lot more scared of an armed "victim" than they are of the police.

Something that's pretty much axiomatic, both in nature and in human criminal activity, is that "predators," whether of the two or four legged variety, always seek out the weakest "prey," and tend to avoid prey that is able to defend itself whenever possible.

Mark

6 posted on 12/23/2012 8:46:59 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL; JohnLott; Joe Brower; Jim Robinson

Your summary is right on target: “Something that’s pretty much axiomatic, both in nature and in human criminal activity, is that “predators,” whether of the two or four legged variety, always seek out the weakest “prey,” and tend to avoid prey that is able to defend itself whenever possible.”

“National Review posted this yesterday and this is perhaps why Piers Morgan gets all interrupty when someone tries to explain how bad violent crime is in Great Britain: According to the Mail, Britons suffer 1,158,957 violent crimes per year, which works out at 2,034 per 100,000 residents. By contrast the number in notoriously violent South Africa is 1,609 per 100,000. The U.S., meanwhile, has a rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, which is lower than France’s, at 504; Finland’s, at 738; Sweden’s, at 1123; and Canada’s at 935.”

Hopefully John Lott can address a few comments/questions I have re this data.

The data seems to back up John’s premise of “More guns = Less Crime.”, since we have more guns in the hands of citizens in America versus the above countries.

Now for my questions/comments:

1. Is our crime rate going down with the massive increase in citizen gun ownership since Obama as elected in 2008?

2. Have the other countries like England increased the bans on private gun ownership, which has driven up the crime rate in those countries.

3. Are more crimes against Americans per 1000 happening in Blue Cities in Blue States with the most severe gun rules/regulations?

4. Is the US crime rate down in Red States/ and or Red Cities with increased gun ownership and C&C laws?


11 posted on 12/23/2012 9:10:51 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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