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HOUSE REPUBLICANS CIRCULATE PLAN TO OUST BOEHNER FROM SPEAKERSHIP
Big Government ^ | 21 Dec 2012 | by Matthew Boyle

Posted on 12/22/2012 5:53:25 AM PST by SMGFan

Several conservative House Republican members are contemplating a plan to unseat Speaker John Boehner from his position on January 3, Breitbart News has exclusively learned. Staffers have compiled a detailed action plan that, if executed, could make this a reality.

The Republicans, both conservatives and more establishment members alike, are emboldened after the failure of Boehner’s fiscal cliff “Plan B” on Thursday evening. Dissatisfaction with Boehner is growing in the House Republican conference, but until now there hasn’t been a clear path forward.

Those members and staffers requested anonymity from Breitbart News at this time to prevent retaliation from Boehner similar to what happened to those four members who were purged from their powerful committee assignments a few weeks ago. Their expressed concern is that if Boehner knew who they were, his adverse reaction toward them would be much more brutal than losing committee assignments, such as a primary challenge in 2014 by a leadership-sponsored candidate.

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This is reassuring, despite reports to contrary.

"Republicans need not worry about handing the Speakership over to Nancy Pelosi or some other Democrat in this process, either. “Don’t worry about Speaker Boehner losing GOP votes in a secret ballot,” the House rule document compiled by staffers obtained by Breitbart News read.

It is still not possible for Pelosi to become Speaker even with 100 % of Democrats united behind her and a split GOP vote. The reason is to become Speaker it is not enough to win a plurality. One must win an absolute majority of all votes cast for an individual.

So even if all 201 Democrats vote Pelosi, Boehner gets 1 vote, and the remaining 233 Republicans each vote for a different individual, Pelosi does not win. Pelosi would need 218 to reach a majority of the 435 votes cast for an individual. Since Republicans have a 33 vote advantage in the House, the only way Pelosi wins is if 17 Boehner opponents affirmatively vote Pelosi or abstain rather than simply vote for an alternative candidate. Both these scenarios are easily avoided. The same argument applies if fewer than 435 Members show up to vote. The magic number would be less than 218 but Pelosi still cannot get there so long as there are more Republicans in the room than Democrats and they don’t abstain or voter [sic] for her.

1 posted on 12/22/2012 5:53:32 AM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

If he is going to be ousted, it would happen behind closed doors in the Republican caucus, not on the floor.

The Pubbies would select someone else to replace him and that person would be their ‘floor’ nominee.

Pelosi and the Dems are irrelevant regarding this, as they are the minority.


2 posted on 12/22/2012 5:58:28 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: SMGFan

YES!!!

Please God let this be true and let it come to fruition.


3 posted on 12/22/2012 6:07:03 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: SMGFan

Bring back Newt!


4 posted on 12/22/2012 6:11:40 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: unixfox

Who should replace him????


5 posted on 12/22/2012 6:16:31 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: SMGFan

There’s talk of Ryan becoming Speaker, as sort of a bridge between the old guard worthless types and the Conservative hard liners, similar to when Dennis Hastert took over after Newt resigned. A hard liner should be Majority Leader. I’m for Tom Price.

I’d like to see a new speaker replace the committee chairs too, but I doubt that would happen. Boehner probably solidified the committees intentionally in case he was removed by the conservatives.


6 posted on 12/22/2012 6:20:17 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Hojczyk

“Who should replace him”

Maybe Ryan? Too bad Allen West was defeated. I hope that Boehner steps down voluntarily.


7 posted on 12/22/2012 6:22:24 AM PST by Snow Eagle ("... Against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC")
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To: Snow Eagle

The Speaker does not have to be an elected House Member so the could elect West or Newt but I don’t believe that would ever happen. The more I hear from Louie Gohmert the more I like him and I think he would certainly be an advocate for Conservativism, the Constitution and the American people so he certainly doesn’t have a shot at it.


8 posted on 12/22/2012 6:32:02 AM PST by duffee (Newt Gingrich for Speaker)
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To: SMGFan

I don’t think he will be ousted. But the question I have is who would replace him if he were? Does anyone have nearly as much support as he does?


10 posted on 12/22/2012 6:42:54 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: duffee

Mark Levin suggested several times Scott Walker!


11 posted on 12/22/2012 6:44:08 AM PST by spiderfern
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To: spiderfern

Scott Walker - yeah!


13 posted on 12/22/2012 6:46:13 AM PST by Ben Chad
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To: SMGFan

At the risk of stating the obvious, Boehner is not a leader. He’s just your garden variety politician.

He is tentative, equivocates and engages in the self-feating tactic of publically negotiating with himself. He needs to be replaced by someone capable of taking a consistent and principled stand, driving the narrative, and energizing his troops. He simply lacks the qualities necessary to lead at this crucial time in our history.

A strong leader would be a wonderful contrast to the weak, mendacious and indecisive Obama. Such a leader would significantly help the Republican brand, such as it is.


14 posted on 12/22/2012 6:57:50 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Ben Chad

OK, as much as I have said I would never go to that septic pit, I’ll take it. First order of business: letter to Obama...not now, not ever. Second order of business...national press conference as second in the line to Presidency: “the games are over”....we pass a tax and spending bill now and send it over to freckless Harry by some form of conveyance meant to draw media coverage to show where the buck stops if nothing gets done on it...perhaps by elephant.


15 posted on 12/22/2012 7:03:21 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: SMGFan
Who ever this “new” leader might be; so help me G-d, i never want to hear the following words uttered out of their mouths: “I look forward to working with the Democrats and the President...I'm sure we can find common ground.”

This should be a Tea Party Conservative! Oh, yes, and screw what Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Karl Rove, and any of the other “smart” Establishment types think!

16 posted on 12/22/2012 7:04:58 AM PST by Artcore
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To: Ben Chad
Scott Walker - yeah!

Uh, no!

Cuzonaccounta then he couldn't be governor of my state anymore.

17 posted on 12/22/2012 7:07:38 AM PST by brewcrew
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To: brewcrew

“Cuzonaccounta then he couldn’t be governor of my state anymore.”
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LOL! Can’t say I blame you there!


18 posted on 12/22/2012 7:11:03 AM PST by Artcore
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To: spiderfern
Mark Levin suggested several times Scott Walker!

Constitutional type Scholars say that the Speaker does not need to be a member and this theory hasn't been tested.

Another name floated is Steve Forbes.

A part of me just for giggles would love to see that as everytime he mentions scrapping the code and going to a Flat Tax as it would raise the blood pressure of every leftist loon we could think of :-)....

19 posted on 12/22/2012 7:22:45 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Hojczyk
Who should replace him????

NOT Ryan - he supported Boner's Plan B to raise taxes. I would like to see iron lady Bachmann. There was a report somewhere last week that said she is planning on challenging Boner.
20 posted on 12/22/2012 7:23:25 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: brewcrew

You are lucky with him. We have Rick Scott who is not PR strong. Scott is going to lose the Governorship I predict, and fear of all fears is another term with jackass Charlie Crist! I am hating the GOP!


21 posted on 12/22/2012 7:24:26 AM PST by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: Artcore

My additional suggestions on a new Speaker-candidate:

1. Need to have somebody either in a “safe” seat. On principle, I would argue against having someone from outside the House, given that we should really have an elected official - more accountable (at least that’s the theory).

2. Bulldog personality. Won’t back down from any interviewer on any subject.
3. A communicator. Can present their vision in ‘soundbite’-sized phrases. An unfortunate part of the world we’re now in.
4. Someone not inclined to start running for President any time soon.


22 posted on 12/22/2012 7:34:51 AM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: Starboard
At the risk of stating the obvious, Boehner is not a leader. He’s just your garden variety politician.

And he certainly in NOT a negotiator - he has no clue. He is negotiating with himself for crying out loud. Anyone that has negotiated anything knows this is folly - everyone in their life has negotiated a car salesman in their life.

I knew we were in deep trouble back in his first negotiation for the CR in 2011, then followed by the debt ceiling deal. White Hut trespasser is playing this time to DESTROY THE GOP, AND IMHO I BELIEVE HE WILL SUCCEED.
23 posted on 12/22/2012 7:38:36 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: unixfox
"Bring back Newt!"

Newt "Conservatives-are-going-to-have-to-accept-marriage-equality" Gingrich? Nope, not for me, not anymore.

The other night, Greta asked Newt if John Boehner is in trouble. He said of course not, it's just a disagreement and it will blow over.

24 posted on 12/22/2012 7:45:07 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Cheerio

“I would like to see iron lady Bachmann.”

Bingo!

The strategy in the house should be to systematically oppose/obstruct the entire Obama agenda. Working together with Obama will not make Republicans any more popular with the electorate. But when the economy nosedives, everyone will share the blame. Republicans should just oppose everything and take the heat that will come from the MSM as a badge of honor.

Bachmann would be Obama’s worst nightmare. She is smart and just won a tough race after getting redistricted by the democrats in a deep blue state. She is exactly what we need right now.


25 posted on 12/22/2012 8:04:36 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Cheerio

“I would like to see iron lady Bachmann.”

Bingo!

The strategy in the house should be to systematically oppose/obstruct the entire Obama agenda. Working together with Obama will not make Republicans any more popular with the electorate. But when the economy nosedives, everyone will share the blame. Republicans should just oppose everything and take the heat that will come from the MSM as a badge of honor.

Bachmann would be Obama’s worst nightmare. She is smart and just won a tough race after getting redistricted by the democrats in a deep blue state. She is exactly what we need right now.


26 posted on 12/22/2012 8:04:42 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: SMGFan

Not compromising on Obama’s part has led to this so thank you Mr. Obama.


27 posted on 12/22/2012 8:06:28 AM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Cheerio
Who should replace him????

Remember, both Republican and Democrat members of the House elect the Speaker. So we could end up getting someone even worse!

28 posted on 12/22/2012 8:06:42 AM PST by Katiana Kalashnikova
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To: SMGFan
Our Kansas delegation has had it Mika Brzezinski: ‘Wooooooooooow,’ our ‘Morning Joe’ interview with Tim Huelskamp was ‘disturbing’ (Twitchy)

I'd say give it to Paul Ryan or someone who has deep Tea Party roots. Tim would be great, IMO

29 posted on 12/22/2012 8:08:47 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Republicans should just oppose everything and take the heat that will come from the MSM as a badge of honor.

Reagan did it, and the American people loved him for it. His presidency was historical. The man took 49 states!
He was polite, upbeat, stuck to the subject, stuck to his principals, and defeated their Alinski tactics every time because of it. That's all it takes.

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30 posted on 12/22/2012 8:12:11 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: unixfox
Bring back Newt!

Uh! NO! Newt is a big government progressive and is part of the problem we're in now! IMHO...just the last part of my statement.

He IS A BIG GOVERNMENT PROGRESSIVE!!!

31 posted on 12/22/2012 8:13:04 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! (Oathkeeper))
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To: unixfox
Yeah...bring back Newt so he has a bigger platform to push gay marriage...or as he puts it 'Marriage Equality"

FUNG!

32 posted on 12/22/2012 8:15:26 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: Hojczyk

I vote for either Lynn Westmoreland or Tom McClintock.


33 posted on 12/22/2012 8:15:35 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: cotton1706

Ryan and Price...I like it.


34 posted on 12/22/2012 8:16:32 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: marygam

Sorry to hear that. I am a HUGE Rick Scott fan.


35 posted on 12/22/2012 8:17:43 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: SMGFan

This is obviously the House GOP members “Plan-B” as in “Plan-Boehner!” to get rid of the current speaker. I’m so sorry.. I couldn’t help myself.


36 posted on 12/22/2012 8:18:04 AM PST by fremont_steve
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To: unixfox

Has Noot been able to develop any leadership skills over the past 14 years? He certainly didn’t exhibit any during the 90s.


37 posted on 12/22/2012 8:20:53 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Republicans should just oppose everything and take the heat that will come from the MSM as a badge of honor.

Personally, I think the Pubbies in the House, should offer, and pass, a tax cut for everyone and pass it to the Senate and see what happens.

Surely, the Senate and the Bowmeister wouldn't object to a tax cut for everyone, would they? If they objected and wouldn't put it to a vote, well then, the Bush tax RATES go by the wayside and everyone gets a tax increase. Just sayin'...

38 posted on 12/22/2012 8:21:19 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! (Oathkeeper))
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To: SMGFan

If this path is followed then let’s hope that it is not like the vote in 2006 where the republicans sh*t the bed big time by not supporting the most effective majority leader (Shadegg) in place of the most popular (Boehner). Smart money says that the republicans will drop the ball, yet, once again.


39 posted on 12/22/2012 8:26:32 AM PST by CheneyClone
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To: Mouton
we pass a tax and spending bill now and send it over to freckless Harry by some form of conveyance meant to draw media coverage to show where the buck stops if nothing gets done on it...perhaps by elephant.

The GOP House desperately needs to draw the line at continuing this sham of a budget "process" where last year's departmental budgets are automatically expanded by X or Y% and the House and Senate have no responsibility.

A new Speaker would be advised to pass a tax & spennding measure, send it to the Senate...and go into recess. Once the Senate acted on the bill and an "as amended" version was ready for Conference Committee, the House would then go back into session and a proper budget would emerge.

Given the specifications in the Constitution, the House would be fully justified in taking such drastic action -- and the GOP would benefit from the cause celebre they had created.

40 posted on 12/22/2012 8:46:18 AM PST by okie01
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To: SMGFan

“HOUSE REPUBLICANS CIRCULATE PLAN TO OUST BOEHNER FROM SPEAKERSHIP”

Outstanding!


41 posted on 12/22/2012 8:49:14 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: unixfox

“Bring back Newt!”

Nope, time for new blood.


42 posted on 12/22/2012 8:51:36 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: taildragger
Another name floated is Steve Forbes.

Where oh Where have the Palinistas gone ?

43 posted on 12/22/2012 9:08:16 AM PST by staytrue
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To: unixfox

Newt is too busy arguing for gay marriage.


44 posted on 12/22/2012 9:11:44 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: SMGFan

“It is still not possible for Pelosi to become Speaker even with 100 % of Democrats united behind her and a split GOP vote. The reason is to become Speaker it is not enough to win a plurality. One must win an absolute majority of all votes cast for an individual.”


True, but a few weeks ago a self-proclaimed conservativ leader was calling on Republican Representatives to abstain, thinking that if 15 or so abstained it would prevent Boehner from winning and force Republicans to nominate a new Speaker. But unless they vote for someone else instead of abstaining, Boener would be elected Speaker; and if 32+ abstained, Pelosi would be elected Speaker.

It would be easier to convince conservatives dissatisfied with Boehner to abstain than to vote for someone else (except for Paulistinians such as Amash, Bentivolio and Massie, who probably vote for their cult leader L. Ron Paul). So unless someone steps up and runs for Speaker, and can convince 15+ Republicans to vote for him, Boehner would be reelected Speaker. (And if some Democrats abstain instead of voting for Pelosi—think McIntyre and Matheson—then the insurgent Republican would need to peel off even more votes to prevent Boehner from winning.)


45 posted on 12/22/2012 9:11:44 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: staytrue
Na, as much as we may like her, I'd keep her away from that cesspool.

However, the recently unemployed Alan West with leadership skills, and a intimate knowledge of Stategies and Tactics would whip The sorry @$$ E-GOP House into shape...

46 posted on 12/22/2012 9:13:09 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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However, the recently unemployed Alan West with leadership skills, and a intimate knowledge of Stategies and Tactics would whip The sorry @$$ E-GOP House into shape...

Agreed. I'm in!

47 posted on 12/22/2012 9:16:12 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: SMGFan

If Boehner really cared about the country, he would resign. He would still have his cushy house seat and maybe we could get someone who would keep to conservative prinicples.


48 posted on 12/22/2012 9:19:49 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: unixfox

It could be Newt. The speaker does not need to be a representative.


49 posted on 12/22/2012 9:22:31 AM PST by golfisnr1
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