Sometimes they do.
Sure, they CAN. You want visible marks or not?
Should they be? Not in this life, not with failure prone humans in charge. Not by the rules I live by.
/johnny
I don’t want to generalize or point fingers, but this woman appears to me to be a classic narcissistic mother, and having a narcissistic mother is a sure path to emotional problems and potentially lifelong mental health issues. It’s all about her.
I think the schools are creating a lot of them by teaching subjective reality. From kindergarten a good many are being taught that the earth is dying and its all the fault of their parents. They’re being taught that grandma is greedily using up all the resources. Homosexuality is normal and heterosexuality is an oppressive imposed lifestyle. This kind of crap continues all the way into college.
Children who might be mildly neurotic but grow up to be otherwise fine are being put under enormous psychological stress through their formative years.
I am Joe Biden’s mother. Well......he called me a mother the other day.
You know, back in the 50’s and 60’s, we had lots of guns in homes, and lots of teens with “issues”, yet I don’t recall seeing many accounts of massacres.
I blame the absent father! Also..there is NO such thing as mental illness...it is demon possession and the devil loves hiding in falseness.
As long as we do this, attack the parents, they will stay in them shadows. I saw firsthand a nightmare. My childhood friend adopted a baby (Puerto Rican boy). After she had two natural sons. As the adopted son grew up, he TERRORIZED this family. This was a professional, intact family. She is a family counselor! they did everything they could do. By the time he was 16, they were living in fear of him, as he had grown big and was physocally abusive. Exhausted and at their wits end, they went before a judge and asked for them to TAKE the boy out of the home. Can you imagine how hard that was? the judge said NO and turned around and told the court that she must be a terrible mother. Both her other sons were honor students. So, until we stop blaming the parents and just take care of the situation no matter how the kid turns out the way he/she turns out, nothing will change.
There’s a mix of nature and nurture in determining the behaviors of anyone.
For much of this century, psychiatry and psychology overwhelmingly focused on nurture. Parents were blamed for schizophrenic children.
It’s become abundantly clear in the last couple of decades that severe mental disorders like schizophrenia and autism are almost entirely nature and have NOTHING to do with how a parent raised a child (schizophrenia is genetic, and also possibly related to odd things like a disease acquired from cats. etc.)
That said, in terms of serial killers (remember to differentiate from mass killers), ALMOST all of them underwent severe abuse by a parent in childhood (the striking exception is Dahmer where no evidence has ever been uncovered of abuse, and Dahmer was torturing and killing animals at a very young age.)
A lot of people are very emotionally (or religiously) resistant to the idea that something like genes or a medical condition can determine your behavior. There are a shocking amount of people on FR who seem to literally not believe mental illness exists as a medical disease (but yet believe in things like demonic possession, despite this being the year 2012, not 1402, last time I checked.)
She actually has an “I Love Che” shirt?. She admires a torturer and mass muderer and then wonders why her son is violent?
For every psychological disorder of children, there is a blame-the-mother contingent, as with the author here. Those theories just don’t stand up to investigation. It’s usually the case, as it seems here, the dangerous child has normal siblings. It’s also the case that the frightening behavior is not unique to the dangerous child. We have to admit that we don’t know why a particular person commits mass murder, and many other similar people do not. No one has been able to predict it even in the short term of days ahead of time, and it certainly cannot be predicted from childhood years ahead of time.
Of course the scientific study is worth while, but it will not yield anything useful soon. Meanwhile the one thing we can do is protect whatever we treasure from the possibility of such and attack. We protect the president, his children, his officers, members of congress, governors, and mayors with little armies of armed guards. Celebrities do the same for themselves and their families. It’s a good idea for schoolchildren, too.
Who knows if that was a legitimate post. I agree that mental health services need to be more accessible. If only Adam Lanza’s mom could have provided her son more mental health care...
The father, Peter Lanza, has shed no light on his son or ex-wife. Also, there is nothing about why Peter Lanza divorced mother, Nancy Lanza. But, the real problem I have about Peter Lanza is that he is no where to be found. He is in hiding.
There is something about this guy, Peter Lanza, that caused his son Adam to hate him.
I’m probably going to take some heat for this - but I am compelled to tell the truth...
There is no mental disorder that CAUSES a human being to take the life of another. On the other hand, one thing can (and I will admit it is possible that mental disorders can leave a person more susceptible to it) - and that is evil. Evil in the form of demonic influence.
The governor of Connecticut said it in a somewhat veiled way when he said evil visited this community today.”
Yes, there are diagnosable, and measurable chemical and physiological issues that cause a myriad of irrational thinking, learning and behavioral complications, and even intellectual deficiencies. But those are a distinct issue in contrast to the evil that causes one human to slaughter another.
"That's a shame. As a former group facilitator on the adolescent unit of an inpatient psychiatric/chemical dependency facility I witnessed many successes. In almost every case it was the parents willingness to open up about their own dysfunctional childhoods as well as their troubled children's that made the difference."
Bingo.
When your father walks out on you and leaves you at the mercy of the woman he doesn’t have the guts to live with, you’re going to be a really angry kid.
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Ping to you.
A bit of a dressing-down I suppose but am interested in your thoughts.
best,
FW