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To: Carry_Okie

“free teacher training in the proper use of firearms” is just about the WORST tack to take in this unfolding new “conversation” we’re just starting. I hope no one pushes it , because IT ALONE will threaten to sink any possible progress in this issue. Have you forgotten how hegemonic is the control of the Teacher’s Unions, and how they can already dictate what teachers can and can’t and won’t and wouldn’t be obligated to do in their highly ritualized function as teachers?
No, the real answers to school security lie elsewhere and teacher involvement isn’t one of them. If you could find a place where their Union doesn’t hold sway and make policy for all of them, it might be possible you’d find some teachers who would voluntarily agree to have firearms ready
for use, but ready for use, hidden away in a locked cabinet along with the glue and crayons, has its own problems.
Far better to have at least one retired cop who’s used to carrying a weapon, and knows from his training how to use it.
We are just beginning to get a taste of what Israel has been going through for many many years.


49 posted on 12/21/2012 10:29:40 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: supremedoctrine
I hope no one pushes it , because IT ALONE will threaten to sink any possible progress in this issue.

Even teachers can recover from their brainwashing. I've seen it.

Have you forgotten how hegemonic is the control of the Teacher’s Unions, and how they can already dictate what teachers can and can’t and won’t and wouldn’t be obligated to do in their highly ritualized function as teachers?

Lol. You clearly did not avail yourself of the link provided. Further, you do know that principal had the guts to attack the perp even unarmed. Do you really think she didn't have the wherewithal to have used a weapon had she been so trained and equipped?

Far better to have at least one retired cop who’s used to carrying a weapon, and knows from his training how to use it.

Oh, and you think that "retired" soon to be double dipping cop won't be a union thug too? Chances are he'll take every precaution in the interest of "officer safety." It was seven minutes between the time officers arrived on scene at the school in question and the discovery of the first body. What the hell were they doing? The shooting continued until the perp committed suicide some six minutes after officers entered a building they could have traversed in thirty seconds. Yeah, right. For all your shouting you just proved yourself a fool.

65 posted on 12/21/2012 11:30:21 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: supremedoctrine
Far better to have at least one retired cop who’s used to carrying a weapon, and knows from his training how to use it.

Oh, and one more thing loudmouth: Columbine High School DID have an armed guard who, when two kids started shooting the place up with shotguns, didn't do squat, and Wayne LaPierre should have known that.

72 posted on 12/21/2012 11:59:02 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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