[Sigurdrifta]

The murder rate is higher. But one interesting thing is that if someone here justifiably shoots another person in self defense, it is first classified as a “homicide”. It is only after a ruling by the authority (usually a district attorney) that the homicide is ruled “justifiable”.

A lot of organizations (including the UN) use the first number , not the second.

[cripplecreek]

The murder rate is higher. But one interesting thing is that if someone here justifiably shoots another person in self defense, it is first classified as a “homicide”. It is only after a ruling by the authority (usually a district attorney) that the homicide is ruled “justifiable”.

That's a good point and one reason I take issue with the attacks on Detroit as the murder capitol. Detroit does lead the nation in justifiable homicide but that because people can carry open or concealed and people are defending themselves. In fact I think you would find that a surprising number of those justifiable homicides are committed by people much older than the average thug.

[expat1000]

The murder rate is higher. But one interesting thing is that if someone here justifiably shoots another person in self defense, it is first classified as a “homicide”. It is only after a ruling by the authority (usually a district attorney) that the homicide is ruled “justifiable”.

I believe the UN even classifies fatal shootings by LEOs as "homicides". Of course that is buried in the reports that are used in their anti-gun propaganda.