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1 posted on 12/19/2012 9:31:21 PM PST by horsappl
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As far as I can tell, the Bears are already well armed.
2 posted on 12/19/2012 9:38:25 PM PST by Paladin2
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I think the author misses slightly by not recognizing that the term "well regulated" means "properly functioning". A well regulated clock keeps accurate time.

The term doesn't refer to being under the control of a government.

3 posted on 12/19/2012 9:38:38 PM PST by William Tell
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latest media meme: why should civilians be able to own assualt weapons?

followed by: if they can be armed like the military, why not tanks and bazookas...?


4 posted on 12/19/2012 9:41:33 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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The Second Amendment was written to prevent another King George in America (like now in the WH.) We had just defeated the totalitarian British. As stated, it was not about hunting. Hunting was a necessity for getting food, as well as protection from Indians and outlaws. A shotgun or single-shot rifle would do for most hunting back then.

A semi-automatic well-filled clip is necessary when defending rights from intrusive government. As usual the dictator-like Democrat Party is determined to ban any rifle they determine to be “war-like.” Assault rifles can be fired on automatic. Those require a special license from ATF. A patriot who voted for Obama is not one.


10 posted on 12/19/2012 9:55:07 PM PST by charlie72
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bunkerhill7 to Jeff Winston
Actually it means more than that:
1887 Webster`s Dictionary:
“to bear, bear v.t., “
“1. to support and move; or carry
2. To be equipped, furnished, or marked with;
to have as belonging, distinguishing, identifying, or characterizing; as to bear a sword, an inscription,, a title, a good reputation or an evil look,
7. To be directed; to be pointed; as, to plant guns to bear upon a trench”


12 posted on 12/19/2012 10:00:56 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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The Congress shall have Power To ... provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States....

I think the redefining will be around common and general Welfare of the United States

You redefine both of those and it's a game changer. Does anyone here think that those at the DUmp or anybody @ the Soros group defines general Welfare the same as we do?

16 posted on 12/19/2012 10:36:55 PM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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How I see it (FWIW)

States maintain a Militia

States appoint the Officers of the Militia

Congress prescribes a training discipline by which the States are to train the Militia

Congress provides for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia

Congress shall govern such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States - that part which is not employed in the service of the United States is not governed by Congress but by the State

Congress shall call forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions

When called into the actual Service of the United States the President shall be Commander in Chief of the Militia of the several States

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Conclusion:

The people keep and bear Arms.

The people are to be trained by the State according to the discipline prescribed by Congress

The people are to be armed by Congress

The Militia may be called upon for service by their Governor

The Militia may be called upon for service by Congress.

States are to train the Militia according to the discipline presecribed by Congress.

Congress shall arm the Militia - the people.

BTW whatever happened to State Armories? I am not speaking of National Guard posts, but State Armories. Congress shall arm the Militia... which houses the arms in the State Armory. Where have those arms gone? Heavy arms. Where are they? The militia has not been provided for. The States do not train the militia... the whole of the people. States can not repel Invasions, hello Arizona!


17 posted on 12/19/2012 10:42:05 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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THE UNABRIDGED SECOND AMENDMENT
20 posted on 12/19/2012 11:20:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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Most of the arguments about the Second Amendment made by both sides revolve around a single assumption - that the Second Amendment grants a citizen the right to bear arms. What both sides fail to understand is that the Second Amendment grants no such right, in fact, the Constitution grants no rights at all!

The Constitution identifies what powers that ‘’We the people’’grant to the government. This is the whole purpose of the Constitution - to tell the government what it can and cannot do.

That is why Marxists Democrats like Obama hate our Constitution because it is a limitation on Government not a limitation on We The People.....

Read the Second Amendment closely, it doesn’t say the people have a right to bear arms but rather that the
government cannot infringe on that right.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

That’s it, that is the whole 2nd Amendment...where does it say that the government gives us any right? It doesn’t, it only says that the government cannot infringe on our rights.

The framers of our Constitution considered our rights to be “natural’ rights, “fundamental” rights. Basic rights that all free people possess.

Today, when a concerted effort is made to obliterate this point, it cannot be repeated too often that the Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals- that it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government- that it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen’s protection against the government. — Ayn Rand


25 posted on 12/20/2012 3:10:07 AM PST by democratsaremyenemy
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30 posted on 12/20/2012 6:48:04 AM PST by BO Stinkss
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The supreme court made a clear distinction between Article 1; Section 8 “ Defense” and the 2nd amendment in Houston v Moore in 1820.


32 posted on 12/20/2012 7:12:11 AM PST by NELSON111
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You forgot Art 6 para 2. Supremacy clause including application to the States and Judges.

You should also add in the Pre-amble to the Bill of Rights that clearly states it's purpose.

RKBA is an Individual Right and is not dependent upon militia service.

34 posted on 12/20/2012 7:16:49 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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The RKBA is a G-d given right. Doesn't depend on any governmental authority.

5.56mm

35 posted on 12/20/2012 7:21:58 AM PST by M Kehoe
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..., the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

The Constitution was written by intelligent people for mostly uneducated citizens. It was written in plain language so the average citizen could understand it.
It lays out our rights as citizens.
It doesn’t specify what arms we can keep, but it also doesn’t exclude any.

The Constitution is not a cafeteria plan.


38 posted on 12/20/2012 7:46:59 AM PST by Texas resident (Enilgat)
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