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1 posted on 12/15/2012 4:14:17 PM PST by Libloather
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That’s why the Obama régime will loot the IRAs and 401(k)s


2 posted on 12/15/2012 4:17:45 PM PST by Katechon
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This just popped up on twitter from Dave Mustaine (Evil heavy metal singer)

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3 posted on 12/15/2012 4:19:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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I’ve got a feeling that it won’t be long until total tribal warfare is going to break out in this country. The more each tribe gets, the more they want.


4 posted on 12/15/2012 4:20:20 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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Everything government runs runs a deficit. But Obamacare is going to be the sole exception. Sure.


5 posted on 12/15/2012 4:20:37 PM PST by fhayek
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Teachers deserve what they vote for: shit.


6 posted on 12/15/2012 4:20:42 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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“Improper enrichment” or “Fraud” are accurate descriptions of teacher salaries in America. They were paid to teach, failed to so do, and now want to be paid for such failure? ? ?

Somewhere, a hungry lawyer is going to see the enormous cash value of teacher assets acquired for duties they did not perform.

;-)

Pensions, indeed!

Take their illegally acquired assets. We do that to other criminals, so why not treat teachers the same?


7 posted on 12/15/2012 4:21:34 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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You’d think at least the math teachers would’ve figured this one out a long time ago.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 4:22:12 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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Every defined benefit government pensioner is a defacto millionaire. The problem is that we dont have enough productive private sector workers willing to keep government benefits at the lavish superenumerated level.

Add to that the fact that you have to tax actual productive citizens at such a rate that they cannot keep enough of their money to save for their own pensions

Government pensions will not be paid as expected.


9 posted on 12/15/2012 4:27:36 PM PST by RFEngineer
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My Dad worked for 40 years for a famous company that was driven out of business a few years ago by technology.As a result,his pension was turned over to the Federal agency that insures pensions (can't recall its name).As a result he lost about a third of his pension.You could say he took a pretty good “haircut”.I'd have *no* problem whatsoever with *every* government retiree in the nation (except for Armed Forces retirees) taking a pension “haircut” at *least* as big as my Dad's.
11 posted on 12/15/2012 4:33:13 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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I know this sounds harsh, but perhaps the teachers be asked to fund their fair share of their own pensions? I know its mean and all, and they are all poor, but many pay nothing into social security ($900/month for me) and I also try and fund my own 401. I know its a hardship and all, but should not those who benefit from it, pay for it? Its just a thought.


15 posted on 12/15/2012 5:01:09 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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So that’s why I got a notice from the IRS that I owe them $296.00 dollars from the tax year 2010


16 posted on 12/15/2012 5:12:58 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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Actually, the damage done by the pensions of retiring teachers to the nation’s economic system PALES when compared to the damage they have done by advancing an anti-Judaeo-Christian, anti-Western, anti-American agenda in the school system.

THAT has allowed Obama to get elected TWICE - by warping permanently the minds of generations of young Americans.


19 posted on 12/15/2012 5:45:46 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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How much have these unions dumped into political campaigns? How much in WI to recall the gov? I’ve thought for a long time that these unions have done a terrible disservice to their members by funding politicians. I can’t imagine any member would choose to have their retirement spent like that.


22 posted on 12/15/2012 5:54:49 PM PST by Kenny (<p)
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The more they get from government, the more they contribute to socialist politics.


23 posted on 12/15/2012 5:57:00 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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This is why they’re going to take your 401(k).

You did everything right.

Now you get to pay for those who didn’t. :)

It’s called “fairness”.

It’s not fair for you, but that’s beside the point. :)


25 posted on 12/15/2012 6:04:52 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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This shortage can easily be taken care of by a moderate stimulus package. Not hard at all to print that much loot.


26 posted on 12/15/2012 6:18:13 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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When Texas got the lottery, the teachers’ retirement was raided. They were promised the money would be returned. You get one guess if it ever was.


27 posted on 12/15/2012 6:30:05 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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Attention all teachers - you want taxes to make up for this and so do we - all teachers’ taxes will triple until we get this pension deficit under control. That is all - over and out.


30 posted on 12/16/2012 4:21:51 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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Where can I buy a mattress that doubles as a safe?

Seems the only way to ensure savings of any kind. And, these days, the interest is even better than most financial institutions

At least this article got to the problem of educators retirements...the way the government handles them. And, I work for a school...so I am doubly concerned (believe me...my overall retirement will never get near $1 million...not even in my dreams...not even in your dreams)

Here in Florida, the state pension system was one of the best funded and solvent in the nation. Very much in the black, and, would have funded retirements for a loooong time. But, the state has raided the pension fund to fund the general state expenditures...and now Gov Rick Scott has pretty much put the first state income tax in Florida on anyone in the retirement system...as their 3% supposedly to go into the pension fund is being used for the general fund (hence it is an income tax).

Now, there is a lawsuit to either give that money back, or, move into the pension. Which means the state taxpayers are on the hook for about $1.5 billion....because the state will lose the lawsuit as the Florida Constitution specifically outlaws a state income tax.

I would prefer to use my own money to fund my own retirement...and not rely on the government...or have the government force me to use their retirement. Most would want so also

Everyone should pay attention to their spending and retirement funding/financing in their state and local areas. There is a upcoming disaster brewing with these pensions...even in states that seem to be solvent. Florida was once quite solvent...but not anymore.


31 posted on 12/16/2012 5:05:29 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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My brother, a retired Chicago teacher, was recently notified he has been receiving too much money from his pension. From now on he will not get a cost of living raise. But I doubt that will help much with Illinois pension crisis.

http://www.chicagonow.com/state-of-your-state/2012/11/illinois-pension-crisis-now-unfixable/


34 posted on 12/16/2012 7:15:46 AM PST by Atlantan
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