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To: xzins; wagglebee; wmfights; C. Edmund Wright; P-Marlowe; little jeremiah; Alamo-Girl

The Communists in our government and on MSNBC can make the same exact argument about the Tea Party and they do.

To twist this into some argument about National defense is truly one of the most bizarre points I have ever read on FR,
A+Bert is that you?

Read the Federalists Papers, the letters between Jefferson and Madison, learn about George Washington and then will you understand the formula that created the greatest nation in the history of mankind.

You know there was a time when man was truly free in America before all of these absurd laws, social engineering that countries would build monuments to us because we were such an inspiration that all changed when Teddy Roosevelt came along and decided to infect our political system with his progressive ideas. Don’t forget he was a Republican.

As a conservative are you happy how you are represented by the GOP? The GOP isn’t conservative, the RNC isn’t conservative, neither of them will ever be and conservatives better wake up because we keep voting for the WHIG party.


284 posted on 12/11/2012 6:23:52 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: surfer

You’re beating straw men to death.

You either consciously or unconciously equate not wanting homo-perversion pushed as normal and natural with wanting the huge disgustingly bloated unconstitutional fedgov that the GOP appears to be wedded to.

80 to 90% of what the fedgov does should be cancelled, jettisoned, tossed, eliminated.

You like to imagine (so that social conservatives can be the hated Enemy) that social conservatives want Huge Government. Nothing could be further from the truth.


297 posted on 12/11/2012 7:23:05 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: surfer

BTW you did not address any of the points I made in my reply to you above.


298 posted on 12/11/2012 7:23:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: surfer; wagglebee; wmfights; C. Edmund Wright; P-Marlowe; little jeremiah; Alamo-Girl; ...
You know there was a time when man was truly free in America before all of these absurd laws

That's just a blind reading of history, surfer. Until very recently, homosexuality has always been illegal in America.

If you're going to come up with these theories, then you should force yourself to recognize the actual facts of the situation you face. The Federalists, Jefferson, Madison, Washington, et al, participated in the criminalization and punishment of deviant sexuality.

They saw absolutely no contradiction.

Fighting Disease has ALWAYS been recognized as Defense of the homefront. This is not some bizarre new theory.

331 posted on 12/12/2012 4:47:44 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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