New York AG Takes On "Reciprocity" Gun Bill

Village Voice ^ | Nov. 30 2012 | James King

[zeugma]

The biggest scam about drivers licenses is that all those many years ago when they were first passed, they only applied to commercial drivers. Because it was widely known and accepted that you have a common law right to travel the public roads. Sadly 70+ years of propaganda have convinced many that you must ask permission from the government to travel.

[NFHale]

“...Kathleen Kane
Pennsylvania Attorney General-Elect...”

Well, gee, It didn’t take long for this effing witch POS Kathleen Kane to show her true colors.

We’ll see how a couple thousand letters to the Republican Governor and House and Senate, and every gun rights organization in the state organizing against her sticks this right up her ass if she tries her liberal freak BS with Pennsylvania gunnies.

Game on, sweetie.

[NFHale]

“...anti-gunners’ heads are going to explode...”

Oh, what nice imagery you paint....

[facedown]

So we should pass a law here in Colorado that doesn’t recognize New York drivers licenses.

Yes. Time for the gloves to come off.

[redgolum]

Sure.

Then you would need a separate drivers, marriage or any other license when you visit a state.

Actually, the marriage license thing was an issue in the early 1900’s when biracial couples would travel through parts of the South.

[Gilbo_3]

Truthfully I am apprehensive about forced reciprocity, because I fear it opening up a can of worms...

I can almost guarantee that if federal gun reciprocity is passed, the very next efforts will be to make “homosexual marriage”, “abortion rights”, “hate crimes laws”, and other such things as binding federal reciprocity agreements.

fed regs are near universally B...A...D !!!

full reciprosity would eventually lead to the *least common denominator* being a fed standards for CC written by NY, Ill and Cal, which will trump the rest...bet on it...

[sickoflibs]

Wouldn’t that law force states to recognize and honor same sex marriages from liberal states?

I understand the attractiveness of this bill for gun permits but then why have states to begin with?

[raybbr]

Another Harvard educated Jewish lawyer who hates “little people” and thinks he’s just the answer for all our problems.

[rcrngroup]

Forced reciprocity is opposed by national organizations including: the International Association of Chiefs of Police; the Major Cities Chiefs Association, representing the police chiefs of 62 major U.S. cities; the National Network to End Domestic Violence, representing 56 state and territorial domestic violence coalitions; the Association of Prosecuting Attorneys; as well as various state law enforcement associations and law enforcement leaders. Forced reciprocity is also opposed by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a bipartisan coalition of more than 650 mayors who collectively represent 54 million Americans.

In other words, the Reciprocal Right to Carry law is good for America, good for patriots, good for freedom, good for liberty....and bad for the socialist despots who want to destroy our Constitution & rule the country as dictatorial elitists & fascist-socialists.

[unixfox]

In Texas we get to renew ours every single friggin year. Plus we have to have our vehicles "inspected" every single year. For "safety" of course.

[iacovatx]

“As it currently stands, the Second Amendment guarantees U.S. citizens the right to own firearms. But each state is permitted to place its own restrictions on the types of firearms — and the manner in which they’re possessed — that people are allowed to own.”

“As it currently stands,” the US Supreme Court incorporated the second amendment among the states. Although simply ignored by some states and municipalities, the second amendment simply formalizes the human right to self-defense and the USSC has acknowledged that right as well as affirmed that it applies everywhere. No state is “permitted to place (any) restrictions” on that basic human right. The AG of NY is wrong—but when has that ever stopped govt officials from oppressing people? I am sure there are legal “experts” out there who can cough up a convoluted legal argument denying this but the intent of the 2nd amendment and the rights of human beings remains clear.

[KoRn]

"You know the BS is getting thick when the left invokes states' rights."

That's always entertaining when Lefties start sounding like 'originalists'. When it serves their ends, even Nancy Pelosi can sound like a Constitutional Scholar.(well, that may be taking it a bit too far)

"all of those guns found their way to New York without the help of a reciprocity law."

Did the guns just all walk up to NY all on their own? Maybe they flew. Perhaps an SUV gave them a ride.

[TXnMA]

Michigan DemocRATS have recently asked Øbozo to "[hold] back federal money for a new international bridge project to Canada and a badly needed mass-transit program in ailing Detroit" in retribution [as punishment] for a Michigan vote making Michigan a right-to-work State.

"Punishment" of States by threatening to withhold a pittance fraction of the taxes paid by State citizens to the FedGov must CEASE! Remove that threat, and we remove the FedGov's sole effective power over the States.

Therefore...

It is time for all sovereign "Red" States to begin "Economic Secession" from the "Blue Hellhole" cities and the tyrannical Federal regime.

The first step in "economic secession" should be declaration from all Red States that

"No 'order' (tyrannical fiat) issued by the Federal Executive Branch or any 'regulation' issued by any Federal agency of unelected bureaucrats shall bear the force of law within this State."

The second step in the "economic secession" of the red states from the blue hellholes should be a "Red State 2nd Amendment Reciprocity Bill".

The next step in "economic secession" should be Red State bills declaring all taxes paid by that State's citizens or businesses to be State Taxes -- with the State legislatures releasing to the Federal Government only those funds required to support that State's fraction of essential services (i.e. National Defense) that are Constitutional Federal responsibilities.

States should then be required by their citizens to reduce their citizens' taxes commensurate with the difference between taxes now paid to the FedGov and the pittance ratio of "Federal" funds returned to the state in the prior five years.

IOW, "Red" States should immediately refuse to pay for FedGov waste -- and should should cut their State citizens' taxes commensurate with the savings.

And then, Red States should begin a sequence of withholding their shares of any monies going to worthless or harmful agencies such as IRS, EPA, ATF, HHS, TSB, etc., etc., etc... And then, the States should reduce their citizens' taxes by a proportionate amount.

It is time for "Economic Secession" by the Sovereign Red States!

[TXnMA]

Note that the “second step” in #33, above, specifically addresses the issue of this thread...

[junta]

2A legislation is the big stumbling block of centralization. The idiots know if they pass an egregiously stupid law some states will not only ignore it they will completely circumvent it. Kind of like select fire rifles and MGs without the dog license. (FTR I want a M-249) Since America is being reduced to a combination day care center/Jim JOnes cult with people desperate to get out of this show of freedom could set off a rapid demise of the baby sitting regime.

[Candor7]

One question: Does Schneiderman carry in New York or in ANY state he visits?

[marktwain]

I went to the Village Voice and looked at the comments. Amazingly, all 13 of them were against Mr. Schneiderman.