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To: editor-surveyor
>> “The Grand Canyon is a mile deep and has vertical walls of over a thousand feet in height.” <<

Nowhere in the canyon does that condition exist.

Sure. Nowhere in the Grand Canyon are there vertical cliffs….except for ones like these:

http://www.terragalleria.com/photos/?keyword=grand-canyon-cliff

Having considerable experience with water running over recently placed earth embankments, it is obvious that they are a perfect microcosm of the creation of the Grand Canyon. The size of the area is irrelevent, since the amount of water was proportional. The “hardening into stone” is the same issue the world over, and is due to the fact that all of the deposited material was dissolved in hot water loaded with carbonates, the world over, and by cooling and drying it would inevitably become some form of calcareous stone.

You are a surveyor so I presume you’ve been to many construction sites. So let me ask you what happens to say an 8’ to 10’ deep earthen trench without shoring or a building foundation without shoring and before being poured with concrete or being lined with foundation stone? Would you be willing to stand in either of those without shoring? And most importantly, would you be willing to stand in either of them during a rainstorm absent any shoring?

and is due to the fact that all of the deposited material was dissolved in hot water loaded with carbonates

So the water was hot? Because….

173 posted on 12/09/2012 2:00:19 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

The water was hot because it came from scores of miles below the surface as “the fountains of the great deep” were ruptured.

And your question re: a trench is a nonsequitur WRT this discussion. Trench failures are always due to wedge pressures on the side of the trench; no such pressures exist in a sea of mud.

Run the water on a fresh pad and watch a miniature grand canyon form before your eyes. It happens every time perfectly.


178 posted on 12/09/2012 4:37:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MD Expat in PA
There is evidence of seismic and volcanic activity world wide- in the past. Heated water is not needed in every case.
Many variants of rock formations could occur during catastrophic events, so inclination can form (vertical or otherwise). The reformulation of material and other events can occur over time, several times (i.e. stages)
See Mount Saint Helens.

Thanks.

195 posted on 12/11/2012 11:53:27 AM PST by kimtom (USA on the Brink, Now Falling over the edge)
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To: MD Expat in PA
There is evidence of seismic and volcanic activity world wide- in the past. Heated water is not needed in every case.
Many variants of rock formations could occur during catastrophic events, so inclination can form (vertical or otherwise). The reformulation of material and other events can occur over time, several times (i.e. stages)
See Mount Saint Helens.

Thanks.

196 posted on 12/11/2012 11:53:44 AM PST by kimtom (USA on the Brink, Now Falling over the edge)
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