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Cadet quits, cites overt religion at West Point
Associated Press ^ | 12/5/12 | Michael Hill

Posted on 12/06/2012 8:21:03 AM PST by crosshairs

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) -- A cadet quitting West Point less than six months before graduation says he could no longer be part of a culture that promotes prayers and religious activities and disrespects nonreligious cadets. Blake Page announced his decision to quit the U.S. Military Academy this week in a much-discussed online post that echoed the sentiments of soldiers and airmen at other military installations.

The 24-year-old told The Associated Press that a determination this semester that he could not become an officer because of clinical depression played a role in his public protest against what he calls the unconstitutional prevalence of religion in the military. "I've been trying since I found that out: What can I do? What can I possibly do to initiate the change that I want to see and so many other people want to see?" Page said. "I realized that this is one way I can make that change happen." Page criticized a culture where cadets stand silently for prayers, where nonreligious cadets were jokingly called "heathens" by instructors at basic training and where one officer told him he'd never be a leader until he filled the hole in his heart. In announcing his resignation this week on The Huffington Post, he denounced "criminals" in the military who violate the oaths they swore to defend the Constitution.

"I don't want to be a part of West Point knowing that the leadership here is OK with just shrugging off and shirking off respect and good order and discipline and obeying the law and defending the Constitution and doing their job," he told the AP. West Point officials on Wednesday disputed those assertions.

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KEYWORDS: antitheist; atheist; christianstudents; nevermind; secular; usma; westpoint
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Lyin sack.
1 posted on 12/06/2012 8:21:08 AM PST by crosshairs
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To: crosshairs

Bye Bye POS!


2 posted on 12/06/2012 8:22:16 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: crosshairs

read to the bottom of the article.

he was found medically unfit.


3 posted on 12/06/2012 8:22:30 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: crosshairs

A liar and a hypocrite...but Jesus can change him.


4 posted on 12/06/2012 8:22:38 AM PST by TurkeyLurkey
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To: crosshairs

Go to a state school then, boy. You’ll have plenty of atheists there!


5 posted on 12/06/2012 8:23:47 AM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: crosshairs

Probably wouldn’t have fared too well with all the “overt religion” in Afghanistan, then.

SnakeDoc


6 posted on 12/06/2012 8:24:20 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Texas survived one Obama term, and we'll survive another. The rest of you are screwed.)
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To: crosshairs
Depressed atheist, what are the odds?
7 posted on 12/06/2012 8:24:58 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: crosshairs

Unfortunately, saw last week that West Point chapel had its first same-sex wedding...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2964903/posts


8 posted on 12/06/2012 8:27:03 AM PST by TurkeyLurkey
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To: crosshairs

Somewhere a deserving young American is wondering how this POS was selected over them in the nominating process.


9 posted on 12/06/2012 8:27:03 AM PST by TADSLOS (No need to watch the movie "Idiocracy". We're living it.)
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To: crosshairs

So ah just how bad were his grades ???


10 posted on 12/06/2012 8:28:22 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: crosshairs

Blake needs to learn a little tolerance.


11 posted on 12/06/2012 8:28:54 AM PST by TheDon (In 2012, American voters doubled down on the first affirmative action president.)
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To: crosshairs
Page said he had been medically disqualified this semester from receiving a commission in the Army as a second lieutenant - like his classmates will receive in May - because of clinical depression and anxiety. He said his condition has gotten worse since his father killed himself last year.

Sounds like the kid has other issues to deal with.

12 posted on 12/06/2012 8:30:01 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Tennessee Nana
So ah just how bad were his grades ???

Probably so bad, he didn't have a prayer.
13 posted on 12/06/2012 8:30:08 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: TADSLOS
Too bad that we don't have commanding generals who prayed, like Washington, Patton and others, instead of Petares(sp), West and those like them.

Washington , Patton prayed, a lot.

14 posted on 12/06/2012 8:30:18 AM PST by Parmy
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To: crosshairs

If any of the accusations against West Point instructors are true then I’m greatly heartened. Have very few remaining good feelings about the military otherwise.


15 posted on 12/06/2012 8:31:43 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: crosshairs

How many years did it take him to figure this out?


16 posted on 12/06/2012 8:32:02 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: longtermmemmory

I knew there had to be another reason.


17 posted on 12/06/2012 8:32:02 AM PST by sarasota
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To: crosshairs

Yet this “story” manages to make the “AP”


18 posted on 12/06/2012 8:32:25 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Elections do have consequences, young people of America)
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To: crosshairs

This simple p.o.s. sounds like he’s planning a run for office. As a Democrat, of course.
I’m pretty sure he’s a faggot, too.


19 posted on 12/06/2012 8:33:05 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: crosshairs

So he wasn’t going to receive a commission but of course THAT didn’t factor into his decision to “ drop out”
Oh no of course not

I hate that West Point let him pretend what the reason is


20 posted on 12/06/2012 8:33:28 AM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: fungoking
It's a tough road for nonbelievers — they live in constant fear of death. Probably why, like this guy, they are such an unhappy lot. So Mr. Page, 24 years old and full of worries and anxiety, is going to move in with his grandparents and continue his activism against religion. When will the local papers carry news of his suicide, slumped over his laptop in grandma's & grandpa's basement and dressed in jammies & fuzzy slippers?
21 posted on 12/06/2012 8:34:29 AM PST by twister881
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To: crosshairs

This sounds like it could be good news for anybody who would have had to shave a foxhole with him. He’d probably pull a Belcher.


22 posted on 12/06/2012 8:35:07 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: crosshairs

Quitter.


23 posted on 12/06/2012 8:37:11 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: crosshairs
... We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ...

Hmmm, what is a creator?


24 posted on 12/06/2012 8:37:41 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Hang in there, America. Fight for what is right." - Sarah Palin 11/7/12)
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To: TADSLOS

Bump!


25 posted on 12/06/2012 8:38:45 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: crosshairs

Not to go all gung ho about it, but in my day this sniveling brat would have awakened from a sudden slumber in a cow pasture with two black eyes and would have had to pick his teeth out of his next bowel movement.

God Bless the Memory of all that was!


26 posted on 12/06/2012 8:39:00 AM PST by februus
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To: crosshairs

24 years old? Smells like another Fluke agitator. Why drop out 6 months before graduation? How long has be been there? Most people go to college at 18-19 so where was he before WP?


27 posted on 12/06/2012 8:39:28 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: crosshairs

Why doesn’t he get the bill for the schooling he’s received at taxpayer expense? West Point isn’t cheap. Page is the one who violated his contract and he ought to find out that actions have consequences.


28 posted on 12/06/2012 8:41:29 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: crosshairs

No loss here. The military doesn’t need someone with these flaws in the ranks.


29 posted on 12/06/2012 8:41:38 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: crosshairs
nonreligious cadets were jokingly called "heathens" by instructors at basic training

Because basic training instructors never mock or criticize anyone else for anything, right? I thought was part of the drill -- needling the trainee to force them to keep their composure under duress?

30 posted on 12/06/2012 8:41:56 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: crosshairs

Agreed.


31 posted on 12/06/2012 8:42:28 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: struggle

A lot of his units are probably non-transferable. He’ll basically have to start over.

One more pantywaste out.


32 posted on 12/06/2012 8:43:16 AM PST by onedoug
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To: crosshairs

“He plans to remain an activist on the role of religion in the military.”

...he’ll end up doing the lecture circuit with Fluke for the libs. You’ll see these 2 idiots at college campuses everywhere within 6 months.


33 posted on 12/06/2012 8:44:16 AM PST by albie
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To: longtermmemmory

Just like “Speaker””Boner”


34 posted on 12/06/2012 8:46:38 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: MasterGunner01
Why doesn’t he get the bill for the schooling he’s received at taxpayer expense?

Does the article specifically state that he is not going to be required to reimburse the government? If not, then this 'individual' is likely to have a rather rude awakening in a few months...

the infowarrior

35 posted on 12/06/2012 8:46:43 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: crosshairs

In 16 years of service, I was never once pressured into prayer or to attend services.

This guy had admitted emotional issues. The Army is better off without him.


36 posted on 12/06/2012 8:49:30 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: DTogo

He didn’t really quit. He was medically disqualified and took to the opportunity to get his 15 minutes of fame on huffington post.

I hope that he gets better and chooses a less public way of dealing with his problems.


37 posted on 12/06/2012 8:49:49 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Parmy
Patton prayed, a lot.

"Every G** d*** day!"

38 posted on 12/06/2012 8:50:28 AM PST by tpmintx (Problem: People who work for a living ARE outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living (47%).)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
How long has be been there? Most people go to college at 18-19 so where was he before WP?

While the majority, probably, of incoming people enter a service academy directly from high school, not a few of them take a more circuitous route. For example, he could've spent a year at another school prepping for entrance, including the Military Academy Prep School. Or maybe he did a year at another college or university, hoping to get into West Point after that. Or maybe he was an enlisted man before he was nominated and sent to West Point.

39 posted on 12/06/2012 8:51:14 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: infowarrior
I agree. But, AP said he wasn't responsible for reimbursing the government for his schooling — and that really IS puzzling. How did he pull that off? That is what I’d like to know.
40 posted on 12/06/2012 8:51:30 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: albie

Because an Atheist army won’t have a problem following orders to round up Christians.


41 posted on 12/06/2012 8:52:04 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: crosshairs
"Lyin sack."

Makes you wonder why he waited almost four years to use this lame excuse for his departure. Better to lose a POS like this. Can you imagine him in a battle zone? When something went wrong, he'd point the finger at the soldiers under his command, instead of taking responsibility for his own bad decision. He was a prime candidate to die as a result of friendly fire.

42 posted on 12/06/2012 8:53:22 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: US Navy Vet

“Page expects to leave for his grandparents’ home in Wright County, Minn., in the coming days. He plans to remain an activist on the role of religion in the military.”I’d really love to be able to do this for the rest of my life,” he said”
Well, I wish we could say Bye Bye but this dysfunctional punk is going to be picked up and used as a tool to drive God out of the Military. The Military is the last pillar and the left can now focus all its resources on destroying it. Don’t forget the ACLU has just found 4, count em 4, women to use to bring a suit to force women to the front lines in California. I pray every day but for whatever reason God is allowing our nations demise. It breaks my heart but it is the way it is.


43 posted on 12/06/2012 8:54:12 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: crosshairs

This article is a lot worse than what is stated therein. No matter what we think of the guy that is quitting, the fact is the left now has a cause celeb to go after the military in a very overt way. The officer crop to some extent has been compromised by liberals a long time ago. But this will put in place at West Point and other military instituions to eliminate traditions Christion/Jewish prayer (Isalm is Okay) within the military.

The end is very near and if we are ever going to have a chance we must make a stand now! NOW


44 posted on 12/06/2012 8:54:36 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: DTogo

The left will embrace him. Maybe he can share a room with Jesse Jackson, Jr. at the Mayo Clinic. Sadly we’ll be paying his disability checks each month, since he’ll surely qualify with the Obama regime’s guidelines.


45 posted on 12/06/2012 8:58:07 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: crosshairs

CLASS OF 1903

Douglas MacArthur
Superintendent of the U.S. Military Academy 1919-22; Army Chief of Staff 1930-35; Supreme Commander of the Pacific 1941-45; Supreme Commander, UN Forces Korea 1950-51.

CLASS OF 1906

Adna R. Chaffee, Jr.
Chaffee is known as the “father of the Armor Branch.” Despite a lifelong love of horses and riding, he spearheaded the movement of the American Army into “armored warfare.”

CLASS OF 1907

Henry H. “Hap” Arnold
pioneer of Army Aviation; General of the Air Force 1949.

CLASS OF 1909

George S. Patton, Jr.
Member of the 1912 U.S. Olympic Team; commanding general of the 7th Army 1942-44, commander of the 3rd Army European Theater 1944-45.

CLASS OF 1915

Omar N. Bradley
Commanding general, lst Army, 12th Army Group European Theater in World War II; Army Chief of Staff 1948-49; first Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff 1949-53; chairman of the board of Bulova Watch Company 1958.

Dwight D. Eisenhower
Supreme Commander Allied Forces Europe 1943-45; Army Chief of Staff 1945-48; president of Columbia University 1948; President of the United States 1953-61.

CLASS OF 1917

Mark W. Clark
Clark succeeded Ridgway as U.S. and Supreme Allied Commander, Far East, from 1952-53. He successfully negotiated the armistice with the Communist forces in North Korea in July 1953, and later served as president of The Citadel, a military college in Charleston, S.C., from 1954-65.

Matthew B. Ridgway
Ridgway served in many positions during World War II, including commanding general of the 82nd Airborne Division and commanding general of the XVIII Airborne Corps. Later, he served as U.S. and Supreme Allied Commander, Far East, from 1951-52, Supreme Allied Commander, Europe, from 1952-53, and Army Chief of Staff from 1953-55.


46 posted on 12/06/2012 9:02:20 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: MasterGunner01
I agree. But, AP said he wasn't responsible for reimbursing the government for his schooling — and that really IS puzzling. How did he pull that off?

If that is, indeed, the case, it *is* puzzling. He should be required to reimburse, if he isn't, why?

the infowarrior

47 posted on 12/06/2012 9:03:05 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: crosshairs

I graduated in 1992...and some of this rings true...but even if true, so what?

There is a group, called the ‘Navigators’...they are born again christains. My room-mate was one; and, once he decided that he liked me, he became very concerned about my soul and did invite me to join. Who knew...peer pressure among young people.

I declined, and it wasn’t that traumatic.

The ‘heathen’ comment instantly triggered memories. During the first summer, we were deprived of food during the week. So, we would go to church on Sunday - where the parishoners (officer’s wives) would lay out a spread of food for after the service. So, almost all of us would go to church. We would get into formation, and the cadre (upperclass) would ask ‘who’s catholic - you need to go with so and so’...and down the line for all the major religions. They would also ask ‘who’s a heathen - you need to go with so and so’. It was meant to be funny - poking fun at the fact some people were so devoted to their lack of faith, they wouldn’t even endure a church service to get food. Who knew - upper class cadets try to insult lower class cadets and make them feel bad.


48 posted on 12/06/2012 9:04:41 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: crosshairs

Liberals always blame others for their self-inflicted pathologies.


49 posted on 12/06/2012 9:05:00 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: longtermmemmory
More specifically psychologically unfit for a commission.

However, that doesn't make good headlines, not when the msm can bash religion.

50 posted on 12/06/2012 9:05:33 AM PST by pfflier
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