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Supreme Court sides with private property against the federal government
Hotair ^ | 12/04/2012 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 12/04/2012 5:25:20 PM PST by SeekAndFind

We've got to celebrate the freedom-endorsing little victories won by the Supreme Court while we've still kinda-sorta got it (one shudders to think of what what the highest court in the land may look like after four more years of President Obama), and the justices logged one in favor of private-property rights with their unanimous decision on Arkansas Game and Fish Commission v. United States on Tuesday.

Per the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment ("nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation"), the question was whether a series of floods coordinated by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers qualified as an actual compensation-worthy taking, since the effects were temporary in nature (although, according to the Court’s opinion, the authorized flooding disrupted the peak growing season for timber and damaged or destroyed more than 18 million board feet of timber over seven years!). As one unit, SCOTUS affirmed that the federal government’s actions did indeed amount to a taking:

What the government taketh, the government must pay for.

That was the 8-0 ruling of the Supreme Court on Tuesday in a case that involved water, water everywhere for Arkansas wildlife officials for several months a year from 1993 to 2000 — water released at a federal dam that flooded state forest land and made it temporarily unusable. …

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, writing for the full court except for Justice Elena Kagan who did not take part in the case, said the government’s actions did amount to a taking.

More from the Court’s opinion, delivered by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg:

Because government-induced flooding can constitute a taking of property, and because a taking need not be permanent to be compensable, our precedent indicates that government-induced flooding of limited duration may be compensable. No decision of this Court authorizes a blanket temporary-flooding exception to our Takings Clause jurisprudence, and we decline to create such an exception in this case. … There is thus no solid grounding in precedent for setting flooding apart from all other government intrusions on property. And the Government has presented no other persuasive reason to do so. Its primary argument is of the in for a penny, in for a pound genre… The slippery slope argument, we note, is hardly novel or unique to flooding cases. Time and again in Takings Clause cases, the Court has heard the prophecy that recognizing a just compensation claim would unduly impede the government’s ability to act in the public interest.

Sorry, federal government — your seemingly tireless efforts to restrict private-property rights got the smackdown, at least for today.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: propertyrights; scotus; supremecourt
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To: SeekAndFind

So what, they still took it.


21 posted on 12/04/2012 7:10:40 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: SeekAndFind

I got this in an email == and it’s close enough to the subject to post it.

The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever, to 46 million people.

Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us “Please Do Not Feed the Animals.” Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.

This ends today’s lesson.


22 posted on 12/04/2012 7:12:51 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: publius911
I see two options to that.

Launch and nuke it from orbit, or apply the Chauchesku solution.

The Soviet burro-craps didn't keep their jobs in the new Republics, unless they changed their tunes. And they had somewhat upset lots of people.

Question: Why does it matter what time the car arrives 10 years from now?

Answer: Because the plumber is coming in the morning.

/johnny

23 posted on 12/04/2012 7:13:22 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: publius911
No one ever claimed these ignorant, brain-dead losers are consistent.

Absolutely they are consistent in whatever is good for them.

24 posted on 12/04/2012 9:46:13 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: itsahoot; SeekAndFind
Supreme Court sides with private property against the federal government.... on Arkansas Game and Fish Commission v. United States on Tuesday.

How exactly is "state versus fed" in this case an example of Scotus siding with private property?

25 posted on 12/05/2012 5:48:08 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: SeekAndFind; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

26 posted on 12/05/2012 7:25:21 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: publius911
"..take James Hansen at NASA... "

Please.

27 posted on 12/05/2012 8:34:48 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Silly Roberts—Lesbos don’t get their nails done! :)


28 posted on 12/05/2012 8:54:14 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Silly Roberts—Lesbos don’t get their nails done! :)


29 posted on 12/05/2012 8:54:21 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: knarf

... isn’t this the second or third case Kagan has not taken part in ?

It may not necessarily be because she recused herself. IINM, if a Justice is not present for the oral argument in a given case (for any reason), s/he may not take part (vote) in the decision on that case.


30 posted on 12/05/2012 8:55:25 AM PST by eddiespaghetti ((with the meatball eyes))
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To: publius911

the State of California or rathers its army of petty tyrants, for decades now has fraudulently caused the zoning for land they covet to be changed to reduce its value before “purchasing” it (for the public good, of course””””

Such actions are called a ‘regulatory taking’, and Nevada County, California, tried such in the early 2000’s. They wanted to ‘inventory’ every square inch of everyone’s private property to look for ‘endangered species’ so they could tell you how YOU could use YOUR land and to what extent. They could have prevented me from using any of the pastures for my horses- both in part or in full.

I and others fought it all day until I made the statement ‘This is a regulatory taking’, we were getting no traction at the county supervisors meetings.

When I made that statement, all 5 of the supervisors turned pasty white. I explained in simple terms what ‘regulatory taking’ was to the audience on the open mic, which forced my comments to be part of the official record.

Then I told the angry supervisors that IF they were so darned bent on changing the traditional long term uses of my property—they could just write me a check for $350,000 within the next hour and I would be off the property—furniture-horses-trailers-vehicles-hay-bag and baggage within 10 days.

They were still pasty white, but they stayed silent.

I then told them that if they were not going to purchase my property for the above named price, they could stay the hell off my property for any and all reasons. Especially since they were planning ‘inventories’ of birds-bushes-bugs-everything on my 5 acres in a stealth manner—no notice. ANYONE could be on my prop0erty without my permission and I didn’t want that.

I knew that I had horses which would come running up to anyone looking for carrots and that such stampede would cause some elderly greenie to have a heart attack in my pasture. When I asked who would be responsible for such consequences, I was told I would have to pay for such a problem. That really got my dandruff up and the audience wasn’t happy, either.

They wanted to sneak onto my property without notice & then hold me responsible for any damage that happened to them. I wasn’t having it. They could own the property first, then they could inventory to their heart’s content.

We got ‘Nevada Heritage 2020’ rolled back, but it ended up in part of the Sierra Council 7 county regulations.

I could have happily shot all 5 of those supervisors, since they were also declaring THEIR property as EXEMPT from this inventory.


31 posted on 12/05/2012 9:19:55 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Lurking Libertarian
I can’t remember, but ... isn’t this the second or third case Kagan has not taken part in ?

There have been many in which she was disqualified because she worked on the case as as a Government lawyer.

And yet, she didn't recuse herself for the landmark Obamacare case, when she directly worked on that case as Solicitor General.

32 posted on 12/05/2012 9:28:58 AM PST by Purrcival (Four more years of OBAMA??????????? I hope this country can survive.)
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To: AbolishCSEU
Silly Roberts—Lesbos don’t get their nails done! :)

I must be watching too much pr0n. </sarcasm>

33 posted on 12/05/2012 10:04:51 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred.)
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To: xzins
an example of Scotus siding with private property?

I think I noted that in that decision, they still took the property.

34 posted on 12/05/2012 2:28:18 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Thanks for the ping, Tex. This is interesting...


35 posted on 12/05/2012 5:09:30 PM PST by TheOldLady
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