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To: chris37
Sure there was -some- fraud, but not massive fraud as you suggest.

It didn't have to be massive, really. It had to be targeted to districts where no one would question the fraud, where GOP observers could be removed and no one would stop that, and it had to be in swing states.

What could not be obtained through machine conversions (vote one, get a vote for the other counted--as we are assured not difficult for those who know the electronic machines) could be obtained through the time honored methods of not counting some votes, and stuffing the ballot box with fraudulent votes.

IIRC, the needed number of votes was roughly 100,000 in each of the 4 states which Barry carried. Look at the Fla fraud against Rep. West, and you get the picture of what can be done in a district, more so in a state.

Did the Republican vote not show up, or did the votes just not count? As polarized and charged as the election was, as strong as the distaste for Obama and his policies, and especially on the heels of Benghazi, do you consider it likely that a few million fewer voters went out and voted GOP? Or did their votes just go down the memory hole?

45 posted on 12/04/2012 5:43:49 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Which is exactly what happened .
The Daley machine run by his brother oversaw the attempted voters theft in 2000 with gore and they learned from their mistakes !
They put the machine in place in 2004 and never dismantled it and sued in states to stop voter ID !


53 posted on 12/04/2012 5:50:14 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Smokin' Joe
do you consider it likely that a few million fewer voters went out and voted GOP?

No, because Romney has about a million more votes right now than McCain did.

66 posted on 12/04/2012 5:59:56 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Smokin' Joe

You should take a good look at the presidential vote totals by party for 2004, 2008 and 2012 ~ FIRST.


87 posted on 12/04/2012 7:11:07 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Smokin' Joe

Much as I would like to say it was stolen and that we got robbed...I also know that almost no one knows what Benghazi even is. We have some incredibly stupid, uniformed people in this country Joe.

People do not even know what socialism means, not even remotely.

It is not possible to explain to a person where they are headed in terms of political philosophy such as socialism when they do not even understand the words you are using.

Our side has been so utterly ineffective that not only do I think our side didn’t show up, I am not even certain that it exists to the extent that we may believe it exists.

I think we are becoming extinct.


103 posted on 12/04/2012 7:52:15 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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