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To: struggle
Biblical “slavery” is more like indentured servitude.

Not for gentiles. From the passage I suggested reading in the post above:

Lev. 25:45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.

Note that the standards for acceptable labor and treatment are different between brethren in Adonai and gentiles. By inference, it is acceptable to rule over gentiles with rigor.

Next time, do what the post suggests and read the passage; you just might learn something, and not all of it is easy to grasp considering our Christian understanding of equal treatment under the law. Yet by no means are those standards universal in the Western world. There is a reason the Ladino Jews were making so much money in Andalus trading in slaves with the Arabs.

The Muslim powers of Iberia both raided for slaves and purchased slaves from European merchants, often the Jewish Radhanites, one of the few groups that could easily move between the Christian and Islamic worlds.[Olivia Remie Constable (1996). "Trade and Traders in Muslim Spain: The Commercial Realignment of the Iberian Peninsula, 900-1500". Cambridge University Press. pp. 203–204. ISBN 0521565030] Middle men as always.

Muslim slavery is life-long.

Muslim slavery is cruel. Everything about Islam is a parallel mockery of the Torah, as was obvious had you read the Hebrew in Genesis 16. Sigh.

Sorry, but I get damned tired of FReepers "instructing" me on subjects of which they are clearly ignorant, without having so much as looked at my FR page to find out I'd written a book encompassing this very topic.

47 posted on 12/04/2012 1:56:57 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Carry_Okie

>>46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.

You’d have to come up with the exact Hebrew interpretation of this. You inherit them for a possession (until the year of Jubilee or when these children you buy grow up1?) and then they shall be your bondman (they have to do what you say as if you are still their parent?).

Not really an easy passage to grasp. I do agree that the Jews were slave traders, as was everyone else during that period.


50 posted on 12/04/2012 3:49:36 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Carry_Okie

For the most part in the Torah they were to be voluntary servants because they honestly knew they were not competent. This is no different than when Israel asked Samuel to give them a king.

The islamic raids that brutally took people against their will and for personal obsene gratification were not slaves per Biblical standards, but outright coveted, thieved and raped out labor.


51 posted on 12/04/2012 3:58:11 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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