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Killings of white farmers highlight toxic apartheid legacy in South Africa
Reuters ^ | Friday, November 30, 2012

Posted on 12/01/2012 11:41:11 AM PST by MinorityRepublican

ERMELO, South Africa -- In a country cursed by one of the world's highest murder rates, being a white farmer makes a violent death an even higher risk.

Whether attacks have been motivated by race or robbery, a rising death rate from rural homicides is drawing attention to the lack of change on South Africa's farms nearly two decades after the end of apartheid -- and to the tensions burgeoning over enduring racial inequality.

Some of South Africa's predominantly white commercial farmers go as far as to brand the farm killings a genocide.

'Potentially explosive' issue On the other side of the divide, populists are seizing on the discontent among the black majority to demand a forced redistribution of white-owned farms along the lines of neighboring Zimbabwe.

"The issue is potentially explosive," said Lechesa Tsenoli, deputy minister for land reform, arguing that South Africa's future depends on ending inequality on the farms.

The economic change promised by Nelson Mandela's African National Congress (ANC) when white-minority rule ended in 1994 has been even slower in the countryside than in cities and mines, where at least small elites of black South Africans have prospered.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnews.nbcnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: alreuters; civilrights; genocide; southafrica
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To: mrsmel
That, dear lady, deserves repeating, with emphasis . . .

EVERY YEAR blacks murder more whites than blacks were lynched in the ENTIRE HISTORY of lynching !

41 posted on 12/01/2012 3:04:20 PM PST by tomkat
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To: MinorityRepublican

I personally know a family who escaped as a white farmer before death to the US. Sadly, they could not convince the father of the family to escape as well. He tried to stay and fight for what was his, and what he was told was not his. He died fighting...


42 posted on 12/01/2012 3:19:56 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Everyone knows it exists, it’s convincing people that it’s not ‘justified’ that is the problem.


43 posted on 12/01/2012 3:20:48 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Hey, just noticed who I was replying to, I’m in Broward!


44 posted on 12/01/2012 3:21:23 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: blueunicorn6

Sounds like you were a victim of MTV too. LOL!


45 posted on 12/01/2012 3:22:15 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

My favorite was

“Fishheads! Fishheads!
Roly poly Fishheads!
Fishheads! Fishheads!
Eat ‘em up, yum.”


46 posted on 12/01/2012 3:36:05 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: dynachrome

Yep


47 posted on 12/01/2012 3:43:40 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: blueunicorn6

In the story, the farmer who was wounded is not sleeping with a baseball bat at his side. I have to conclude that’s because law abiders aren’t allowed to own guns there. Anyone know what’s up with that?


48 posted on 12/01/2012 3:47:03 PM PST by Kanzan
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To: MinorityRepublican

I wish they would come to America, they already speak English.


49 posted on 12/01/2012 3:51:48 PM PST by Drayah
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To: MinorityRepublican

I wish they would come to America, they already speak English.


50 posted on 12/01/2012 3:51:48 PM PST by Drayah
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To: dynachrome
The Jews did not believe things would get so bad in Germany. The whites do not believe things will get so bad in South Africa, even with Rhodesia as an example.

Any whites in either Zimbabwe or South Africa should be doing their best to emigrate to the West real fast. When collapse comes, it will be all the white mans fault.

South Africa and Zimbabwe will still have mineral wealth. Eventually, somebody sufficiently ruthless will show up and decide to get that wealth. In the process, they will exterminate the black Africans, and import other workers for the mines.

51 posted on 12/01/2012 4:00:23 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Viennacon

‘establishment of a new coastal state’

Would have to have this as their motto:

“Vertrou in God en die Mauser”


52 posted on 12/01/2012 4:10:35 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: MinorityRepublican

And to think, there were NO blacks in South Africa when the Dutch settled there. Only a few bushmen and Hottentots who are not Blacks.

Then Shaka sent his impis South, pushing all the black tribes in front of him into SA.


53 posted on 12/01/2012 4:34:40 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: PapaBear3625

China is slowly working that out.


54 posted on 12/01/2012 5:18:30 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Knockout King” is the beginning of the same thing here.


55 posted on 12/01/2012 5:19:11 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: GeronL
They deserved it according to Communists.

Why didn't the media ever ask Nelson Mandela what he thought about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama's war crime torture/abuse/murder of his pal Momar Gaddafi?

"WE came, WE saw, he DIED!" - Sec. of State Hillary Clinton under President Barack Obama.

56 posted on 12/01/2012 5:36:12 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: PapaBear3625

Many white South Africans have tried, only to be turned away or sent to the back of the line in favor of unskilled violent Somalis, Haitians known to be HIV/AIDs carriers, or border jumpers, ALL of whom immediately climb on to the gravy train pulled by fewer and fewer producers each year. Not only don’t the western white governments give a damn about the beleaguered white South Africans, they are afraid that giving them asylum will be a bad reflection upon the black ANC governance of South Africa, and would legitimise through recognition, the genocide being perpetrated upon the white South Africans. So people like the highly-skilled white South African, with their famous work ethic, are given the cold shoulder, while people whose only qualification is their “melanin enrichment”, have the red carpet rolled out for them, any possible “entitlement” showered upon them, while their part of the “bargain” is to “enrich” the US with their vibrant violence, exotic diseases, lack of skills, antagonism to assimilation and to whites, dirty cultural habits, and an ability to quickly learn their way through the maze of benefits and entitlements, though it’s beyond them to learn English.

Bottom line, western governments don’t want more whites in any significant numbers, even with their desirable skills, and don’t want to make the black rulers look bad by admitting that the whites are in need-desparate need-of asylum.


57 posted on 12/01/2012 6:24:08 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: MinorityRepublican

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaBYmbedL2c


58 posted on 12/01/2012 8:13:34 PM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: mrsmel
In 1804, the Haitian blacks who overthrew white rule climaxed their revolt with the massacre of every white man, woman, and child in Haiti. This massacre is seldom mentioned among the other genocides we hear about.

South African whites need to get out, by whatever means necessary, before it is too late.

59 posted on 12/02/2012 2:28:32 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Maine Mariner; muawiyah; Bon of Babble; mrsmel
The Reuters article, shows an absurd lack of understanding of South African agriculture, races & history. The best way to understand the White farmers in South Africa is to study American pioneer history. While mostly of 17th Century Dutch & Huguenot settler stocks, the White development of agriculture in South Africa paralleled very closely, in time what happened here. The closest parallel to the American settlement experience in the world, is the South African.

For example, in the late 18th & early 19th Centuries, both nationals crossed the mountain ranges near the coast in Conestoga type wagons, going into the largely unknown interiors, armed with long rifles, their Bibles & what refinements they could carry in that fashion. One driving through the South African countryside in the 1960s, would encounter the most significant difference. Whereas we have largely forgotten the significance of a pioneer history, every South African dorp (town), I visited, appeared to have its own pioneer monument, with images of what looked like Kentucky "long-riflemen" being celebrated.

To understand the vulnerability of the Afrikaner farmer to brigandry, today, you have to understand that because of a dryer climate, the family farms tended to be quite large, to be practical. This coupled with a pioneer love of space, meant that the homes were very spread out--Arthur Conan Doyle makes a point about this in his History of The Great Boer War;--a point from the British viewpoint.

By contrast, the various Bantu nations--and they clearly are diverse nations--grouped their tribal housing in close-together patterns, surrounded by large tracts of virtually undeveloped tribal lands. The most striking aspect of Bantu "farming," if you can call it that, when I traveled around South Africa in 1966, was that they did not fence their livestock off the road. One had to be constantly on guard, as one came around a curve, not to run into someone's livestock.

Only an idiot--I know everyone at Reuters is not an idiot--but only an idiot would expect Bantu agriculture to be on a par with American or Afrikaner agriculture. (The linkage is intentional.) This is not intended as an insult to anyone. The Bantu have different values, different priorities.

On the subject of Aparthied, let me refer you to the section on "Apartheid Revisited," in the Chapter on Perspective & Focus, in the online version of my Conservative Debate Handbook. The vicious misrepresentation of Apartheid by the Academic & Media Lefts has not been motivated by any true altruism. On the contrary, it reflects the compulsion of those seeking to force all Mankind into some form of one-world order.

It is interesting, although the Left would never admit to the fact, that the Great Society types actually adopted part of the Apartheid program in America, to encourage job creation in the inner cities here. I forget what they called it; but it was the same as the National Party was pursuing with respect to the Bantu homelands in South Africa.

William Flax

60 posted on 12/03/2012 10:57:14 AM PST by Ohioan
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