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To: GVnana; Kaslin; SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; ...

Pass the partial extension of the tax cuts through the House to disarm Obama and Dems of that club, then get on TV and make sure voters know you are not for raising taxes on the middle class.

Then you can walk away from Obama’s?Geitners list of demands.

Alternatively play the same strategy as a year ago (on FICA) and the outcome will be the same.

And create a video commercial of all the Dems who have been lining up calling to go over the cliff to use as a club to beat Dems with next January when the heat really goes up.

Summary : Fight like Dems, meaning fight like winners for a change,.


18 posted on 11/30/2012 5:00:27 AM PST by sickoflibs (Has Bohner caved to Obama again yet?)
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To: sickoflibs; GVnana; Kaslin; SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy

” Summary : Fight like Dems, meaning fight like winners for a change,.”

Wake me when this happens.


29 posted on 11/30/2012 7:39:54 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; GVnana; Kaslin; SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; ...
Pass the partial extension of the tax cuts through the House to disarm Obama and Dems of that club, then get on TV and make sure voters know you are not for raising taxes on the middle class.

I think this merely gives Obama what he wants.  He then gets to say he is the defender of the middle class, and he has taken it to the rich in their defense.  We can say that we defended the middle class, but it will be a hollow argument no matter what we profess.  You either oppose raising taxes or you don't.  And you don't sign on to raising them if you want to have credibility on the subject ever again.

The small businessman is going to be harmed by this.  Is he going to think we came to the rescue of the middle class?  He's going to be spitting nails in our direction, and rightfully so.

Either we believe in undoing Socialism or we don't.  It's that simple.

Why do we oppose raising taxes on the rich?  And by classification, who are we really talking about when we reference anyone making over $250,000 dollars per year?  Only the rich?

I believe we have to explain our position much better than we have.  And if it requires infomericals to get the point across, then so be it.  Break out the charts.  Explain it to folks in terms they can understand.

The one thing I have come to believe about what is considered 'the Right' in the United States, is it's timidity about explaining what it's true ideology is.  We don't explain our position.  We lose the argument.  We then extrapolate what that means in a vacuum.


We understand the problems with labeling everyone pulling in over $250,000 dollars per year as rich.  What we fail to understand is that not everyone understands.  We simply assume that because we do, everyone does or should.  That's not enough.


Then you can walk away from Obama’s?Geitners list of demands.  Alternatively play the same strategy as a year ago (on FICA) and the outcome will be the same.

No matter what we cave on, the part we don't cave on will still be fodder for the Left to blame us.  Looking back over the sixty years, what has caving on issue after issue after issue gained us?  Here we are living in a Socialist paradise, and we're still being demagogued on the issue of us being unreasonable.  Then the operative plan is to give one more time, so we'll look reasoned.  I'm sorry, at some point in time we need to take a stand, explain why, and start moving the yard marker back toward the other end zone.

Man, if we can't take a stand on creeping Socialism now, then we should fold up our camp and register as Democrats and be done with it.


We really do have to start a massive education effort against the Left.

1. What is Socialism?
2. What has happened other places it has been tried?
3. What is Capitalism?
4. What has happened places it has been tried?
5. Why has China prospered in recent times vs it's period from 1955 to 1992?

6. Has the Republican party bent over backwards to try to be reasoned with the Left?  (Is the U. S. a Socialist state today or not?)
7. Has the Left bent over backwards to try to be reasoned with the right? (Do we still support our Constitution? Who suggests we should and who doesn't?  How does this relate to the amendments?)


...and much much more.


This isn't being taught in schools.  Someone has to do it.  It's about time we did, or at least tried.

And create a video commercial of all the Dems who have been lining up calling to go over the cliff to use as a club to beat Dems with next January when the heat really goes up.

We can't do that after telling the other side hell no to ANY tax increases?

Summary : Fight like Dems, meaning fight like winners for a change,.


Agreeing to raise taxes on 'the rich', is exactly that, fighting like Dems.  No, scratch that, it's fighting for them.  I want no part of that.  I can't for the life of me see how that is anything other than fighting like losers.

Are we where we are today, because we stood firm and explained our reasoning?  I would submit we are where we are today because we didn't stand firm, and failed all too often to explain sound principles to the people we seek to lead.

Stand firm.  Explain yourself in detail.  Win!

33 posted on 11/30/2012 10:37:39 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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