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Good News for a Change: Two More States Move Against ObamaCare
FreedomWorks ^ | 11/29/2012 | Joshua Withrow

Posted on 11/29/2012 11:19:37 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather

Some good news today, as Michigan and Arizona have both made decisions that they will not be setting up a health care exchange under ObamaCare.

In Arizona, Governor Jan Brewer declared yesterday that she will not direct the state government to set up an exchange.

In Michigan, Governor Rick Snyder has been trying to set up an exchange, but Speaker of the House Jase Bolger has declared that he will not bring the bill to establish exchanges to the floor. 3,500 people have already sent messages urging Michigan's top state officials to stand against ObamaCare, and the Speaker is listening. Keep the pressure on Governor Snyder - Michigan residents can Take Action by contacting his office HERE.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: arizona; bhohealthcare; exchange; good; michigan; news; nothanks; obamacare
WhooHoo!
1 posted on 11/29/2012 11:19:45 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather

That’s 19. Need 15 more for the magical 34.


2 posted on 11/29/2012 11:24:46 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Don’t give Bolger too much credit for Michigan. He was apparently for it but was going to be outvoted in committee.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2963715/posts


3 posted on 11/29/2012 11:29:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

what happens at 34?


4 posted on 11/29/2012 11:41:57 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: cripplecreek

I hope our gov. Rick Scott in Fla. is only humoring people with his “taking a second look” at Obamacare. Geesh!


5 posted on 11/29/2012 11:42:29 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I sent email to scott. subject hell no


6 posted on 11/29/2012 11:49:17 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I sent email to scott. subject hell no


7 posted on 11/29/2012 11:49:48 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Donnafrflorida

I will be doing so as well.


8 posted on 11/29/2012 11:58:46 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: for-q-clinton

The question should be why in the he** did those states who are not setting up the exchanges vote for obama in the first place? Romney pounded home that he was going to repeal obamacare - guess all the sheeple heard was birth control, abortion and don’t touch my welfare.


9 posted on 11/29/2012 12:00:14 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: for-q-clinton

Well, 16, which we’ve got, prevents them from ramming through a constitutional amendment.

34 is the next barrier. If we can get 34, we can ram a constitutional amendment the other way barring this crap. Forever.


10 posted on 11/29/2012 12:00:34 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: Catsrus

“Romney pounded home that he was going to repeal obamacare - guess all the sheeple heard was birth control, abortion and don’t touch my welfare.”

Perhaps the ‘sheeple’, saw this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn0GYg1PjUY


11 posted on 11/29/2012 12:02:31 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge
If we can get 34, we can ram a constitutional amendment the other way barring this crap. Forever.

Interesting, I did not know this either. Can you give more details on our ramming through a constitutional amendment. What would it bar?

thanks

12 posted on 11/29/2012 12:03:30 PM PST by annieokie
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To: JCBreckenridge

I seriously doubt the sheeple saw that video. They don’t do research - they only listen to the talking points given them by the media and obama.


13 posted on 11/29/2012 12:13:43 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: JCBreckenridge

Anyway, Mitt “evolved” since this debate. Hey, if dear leader can evolve on issues, then so can Mitt.


14 posted on 11/29/2012 12:15:32 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: annieokie

Article 5 of the US constitution.

Two thirds to send a Constitutional Amendment to the House and Senate - Three fourths to ratify. Something to the effect of, “the fundamental freedom of the United States will forever bar all fines, penalties and punishements levied against citizens of the United States for failure to purchase health insurance.”


15 posted on 11/29/2012 12:17:52 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: Catsrus

Thank God I don’t believe in evolution.


16 posted on 11/29/2012 12:18:53 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Bolger caved the right way. Snyder is worthless.


17 posted on 11/29/2012 12:19:41 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Catsrus
The question should be why in the he** did those states who are not setting up the exchanges vote for obama in the first place?

Combination of blacks, academia people living in a bubble, conservatives who stayed home, and because Romney somehow "let Detroit go bankrupt." (eyeroll)

I didn't vote for Bacrock.

18 posted on 11/29/2012 12:22:33 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Darren McCarty

Snyder irritates the hell out of me because he does good and bad at the same time.

He wants to expand natural gas drilling and set up a state “strategic reserve” then turns around and says he wants to keep dumping money into wind power.


19 posted on 11/29/2012 12:26:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Darren McCarty
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20 posted on 11/29/2012 12:29:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

thank you


21 posted on 11/29/2012 12:36:47 PM PST by annieokie
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To: JCBreckenridge

You need 38 states, not 34 for an amendment (75%). And although there is apparently a process by which states can pass an amendment without the approval of Congress, it hasn’t been done before.


22 posted on 11/29/2012 12:43:09 PM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

There’s no victory in this at all. The states that don’t set up their own exchanges simply are allowing the Feds to set them up for them. I wouldn’t trust the Obama administration to set up exchanges for these states that are more favorable than exchanges they could have created on their own.


23 posted on 11/29/2012 12:51:03 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: JediJones

You need a vote in 34 state legislatures to start a Constitutional Convention, and 38 to ratify amendments. However, as the 27th amendment shows, there is no limit to how long we can leave an amendment out there until it is eventually ratified by 3/4 of the state legislatures.


24 posted on 11/29/2012 12:58:21 PM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: JediJones

34 to propose. 38 to ratify. :)


25 posted on 11/29/2012 1:07:05 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: Cementjungle

Here is a great article on why it is best the states do not set up the exchanges on their own:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333040/obamacare-still-vulnerable-michael-f-cannon#


26 posted on 11/29/2012 1:40:24 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Photobucket Gee... I thought government healthcare was a good thing. (sarc)
27 posted on 11/29/2012 1:47:02 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: sheikdetailfeather

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LwnmbdiTg&feature=em-share_video_user


28 posted on 11/29/2012 1:49:52 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

As I understand it, forcing the feds to step in and set up Obamacare forces them to overstep their bounds and opens them up for massive lawsuits.


29 posted on 11/29/2012 2:48:32 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Oh good!


30 posted on 11/29/2012 3:12:15 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

My state senator (Mike Shirkey) was a hospital administrator and board member for Allegiance Health care systems. He ran on his opposition to Obamacare and has always called it a disaster.

He was my sight unseen vote of 2010. I didn’t know much about him but voted for him because he was the republican and we’ve really lucked out with him. He’s working toward getting a right to work bill introduced now.


31 posted on 11/29/2012 3:22:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: annieokie

It’s called an Article 5 convention, but don’t say it too loud because there’s some who believe that it would be an invitation for Satan to appear and obuma to march his fat welfare momma brigade across the nation and eat everyone.

Here’s a brief synopsis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution


32 posted on 11/29/2012 3:39:49 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Windcatcher

The LAST thing I want to see is a new constitutional convention.


33 posted on 11/29/2012 3:52:53 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: sergeantdave

OK, now what would the wording be that would apply to reversing forever Obamacare?


34 posted on 11/29/2012 4:07:15 PM PST by annieokie
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To: JCBreckenridge

A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States).


35 posted on 12/01/2012 11:48:45 AM PST by scannell
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To: JCBreckenridge

A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States).


36 posted on 12/01/2012 11:48:52 AM PST by scannell
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