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To: Perseverando
This article sums it up nicely. It's time for the rubber to meet the road.

If anyone thinks that 'filing paperwork' is going to lead to the FedGov agreeing with any secession movement, they are living in a dream world.

Secession is going to take force and bloodshed, in the mildest of circumstances. The FedGov is not going to let go the power it has compiled without a fight. It is going to have to be pried from the FedGov's hand by force.

Now let's see if force is going to follow, when the paperwork is laughed at and used for kindling.

3 posted on 11/28/2012 9:57:08 AM PST by Fedupwithit (You gave him what he wanted. I gave him what he needed.)
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To: Fedupwithit

When the Beast on the Potomac dies it will die like the Soviet Union - insolvent, unsupported and largely unmourned. Until it is too poor to pay for the brute force to compel submission however, it will destroy anyone anywhere who threatens the sweet life in Capitol.

“And may the odds be ever in your favor.”


6 posted on 11/28/2012 10:04:26 AM PST by Psalm 144 ("I didn't the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Fedupwithit

I think the North East power structure would let Texas and a few other states go without a fight. These are not you GGGF Yankees that charged Marye’s Heights, these are wusses.


12 posted on 11/28/2012 10:16:40 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Fedupwithit

Whether it is Constitutional or not, secession is one of the options to break the mean-spirited domination of American life and culture through the “phony liberalism” of the current set of elites who have distanced themselves from actual contact with the people who live down here on the ground.

The Federal government is not interested in making any such secession amicable. But the Tenth Amendment of the Constitution clearly states, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

The Supreme Court and both the executive and legislative branches of the Federal Government have, in fact, arrogated to themselves a number of powers that rightly belong to the several States, and up to now, this is largely unchallenged, because of a broad but very vague interpretation of the “Interstate Commerce clause” in the body of the Constitution.

King George of England once thought he had a free mandate to do as he wished in dealing with the colonies along the eastern seacoast of the North American continent. Ended up with a split decision on that, as the more northerly English colonies opted to remain under the Crown’s dominion.

Time for a Redeclaration of Independence. And once that is won, a Constitutional Convention to write out the ambiguities and contradictions contained in the existing Constitution of the United States.


27 posted on 11/28/2012 10:31:47 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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