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Obama--64,175,423 Romney--60,044,046
Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections ^

Posted on 11/26/2012 8:18:38 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles

Still not finalized.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; obama; romney
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1 posted on 11/26/2012 8:18:41 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

ping


2 posted on 11/26/2012 8:19:31 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

So Obama lost 5.3 million votes, and Romney got about 200,000 MORE than McCain but not enough.

Imagine if Romney did not have morons around him like all the consultants and idiots like Eric Fehernstrom who told the world to ignore everything Romney said in the primaries because they would Etch-a-Sketch everything he had said when the general election came along.

That alone probably made 5 million people, like Reagan Democrats, stay home.


3 posted on 11/26/2012 8:30:44 PM PST by oldbill
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Zero’s lead keeps getting bigger. Why? I suspect that the late counted absentee ballots and conditional votes are going to Zero in a big way. This would be your fraudulent votes. Any comments?


4 posted on 11/26/2012 8:31:30 PM PST by Sam Clements
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Leip is far behind Wasserman (who is doing continuous county-by-county updates).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AjYj9mXElO_QdHpla01oWE1jOFZRbnhJZkZpVFNKeVE&toomany=true#gid=19

It’s Obama 64,811,843 and Romney 60,444,303, and 2,186,461 Other.

The “vote thrower-awayers” are surprisingly numerous and much higher than 2008. It’s overwhelmingly for Johnson, so people shouldn’t kid themselves that a “true social conservative” would have gotten those votes.


5 posted on 11/26/2012 8:31:58 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Why are the red and blue colors reversed? That was a scary map until I realized the switch.


6 posted on 11/26/2012 8:32:05 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Sam Clements

Why would one bother with illegal activity if the vote is already decided?


7 posted on 11/26/2012 8:35:45 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

What’s the vote total for 0bama vs. Romney in the Swing States only? How many fraudulent 0bama votes were there? I’d imagine a heavy ‘union voter fraud’ MACHINE was working overtime, especially during EARLY VOTING.. GOTTA HAVE THAT EARLY VOTING AND SUPPRESSION OF MILITARY VOTES.


8 posted on 11/26/2012 8:36:41 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: upchuck

Red is the color of socialism. They used to switch back and forth on the colors, it wasn’t until 2000 and Tim Russert the Republicans got stuck with Red, which is idiotic.


9 posted on 11/26/2012 8:39:01 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Sam Clements

“Any comments?”

My thoughts are that even after they pulled out all of the stops they could, including voter fraud and the undying support of the media, the left barely squeaked out a <2% victory with an incumbent. Take away the effects of the storm, put in actual journalism in the coverage of Benghazi, and take away the attempts to hide the true economic numbers and this percentage flips pretty quickly. We should stop with all the hand wringing around here and realize that at least half the country is on our side - and we can turn things around with good strategic decisions, and the right candidates.


10 posted on 11/26/2012 8:39:16 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

I can explain that simply:

FR.

:D

(just joking ... sort of)


11 posted on 11/26/2012 8:39:30 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

It’s Obama 22,846,836 and Romney 21,085,930 in the swing states.


12 posted on 11/26/2012 8:40:05 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: upchuck

Red is usually the color of the incumbent.


13 posted on 11/26/2012 8:40:40 PM PST by null and void (The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.)
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To: Strategerist

When the absentee ballots and provisional ballots were filled out the vote totals had not been determined yet. The strategy, pretty obviously would be amass large amounts of additional votes in case they came into play such as with Florida in 2000 and Illinois in 1960.


14 posted on 11/26/2012 8:41:32 PM PST by Sam Clements
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To: Strategerist
The “vote thrower-awayers” are surprisingly numerous and much higher than 2008. It’s overwhelmingly for Johnson, so people shouldn’t kid themselves that a “true social conservative” would have gotten those votes.

On Saturday I saw (in San Francisco) a twentysomething guy wearing a "Gary Johnson 2012" T-shirt.

15 posted on 11/26/2012 8:43:53 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Strategerist

Thanks, I’ve been looking for more recent numbers. Make a post of that site here why don’t ya?


16 posted on 11/26/2012 8:48:38 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: upchuck

In the old days they used to use blue for the Republicans and red for the Democrats. I’ve read that it was John Chancellor of NBC News who came up with the idea. See this example from NBC’s 1980 election coverage, which has the map all blue for Reagan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsDe-8cOSYY

Not really sure why they switched.

Leip probably made a lot of his maps back before the colors were reversed, and decided to keep using blue for GOP and red for Dems for his new maps.


17 posted on 11/26/2012 8:53:20 PM PST by Random_User_250 ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: oldbill

Headline: Romney beats McCain!

A few more votes to roll in, and he will have also beaten GWB’s 62 million vote total from 2004, and be the highest GOP vote-getter in history!

Another successful campaign from your friends at GOP-e!

They really outdid themselves this year.


18 posted on 11/26/2012 8:53:40 PM PST by Reagan80 ("In this current crisis, government is not the solution to our problems, government IS the problem")
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To: Strategerist
The “vote thrower-awayers” are surprisingly numerous and much higher than 2008. It’s overwhelmingly for Johnson, so people shouldn’t kid themselves that a “true social conservative” would have gotten those votes.

You'd be surprised.

19 posted on 11/26/2012 9:05:20 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Random_User_250

Te Red for Republicans took hold firmly in the Bush-Gore 2000 election. But even then there was noo common ground. On election night, several networks had Republicans as blue on their maps.

With its socialist-marxist leanings, red is more appropriate for democrats. As you mention, prior to the 1980s, blue was the Republican color on the three networks and in the color print media.


20 posted on 11/26/2012 9:07:11 PM PST by oldbill
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To: Sam Clements

I simply am not convinced of any significant voter fraud. I AM convinced the GOP elite stuck us with a flaming idiot for a candidate. We lost because of what we were selling, not voter fraud. I suggest we actually, I dunno, try selling conservatism next time.

The voter fraud thing is just a canard.


21 posted on 11/26/2012 9:11:22 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Strategerist

Massachusetts should be pink.


22 posted on 11/26/2012 9:22:46 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Having an abortion is "progressive"?)
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To: Strategerist

That’s pretty close.


23 posted on 11/26/2012 9:27:13 PM PST by thecodont
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To: RIghtwardHo

Get ready! I agree with you about the voter fraud canard. We might be the only 2 guys here that believe that. I mentioned this on another thread and got abused:).


24 posted on 11/26/2012 9:28:31 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: RIghtwardHo

Axelrod was interviewed on local Chicago news tonight. He said the reason Romney lost was because of the big Republican gains in ‘10. It forced Romney to move to the right to reflect those gains and get the support of the voters. And it turned off those in the middle. HA! I think it had more to do with Axelrod demonizing Romney/Ryan and attracting enough new low information voters to win. Obama couldn’t run on his record so he divided everyone by race, gender, sex, etc. Good luck governing the mess you made, Barry,


25 posted on 11/26/2012 9:30:22 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

What % of the voter-aged (= registered and unregistered) pool voted in this election?


26 posted on 11/26/2012 9:30:52 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Sam Clements

CA had a big chunk of the later reported votes. Obama beat Romney 61% to 37% in CA.


27 posted on 11/26/2012 10:03:33 PM PST by kabar
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To: All


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28 posted on 11/26/2012 10:32:45 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: upchuck
The lib media changed the red and blue, I think, during the 1992 election, if not before that. For what reason I am not sure.

Maybe it was because blue is a more calming color and they needed to get us all calm before they began hypnotizing their mind-numbed robots.

29 posted on 11/26/2012 10:32:59 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Oh, but the lamestream media said Odumba has a mandate and that the GOP is a dead party, this, this can’t be true! Our Republican leadership had better stand up to these libtards, the fight is not over!


30 posted on 11/26/2012 11:04:36 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Reagan80

Yeah, the GOPe proved that can’t even win against Jimmy Carter, when we are on the verge of a depression and his voters stay home.

Way to go losers.


31 posted on 11/26/2012 11:31:49 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischers successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Graewoulf
What % of the voter-aged (= registered and unregistered) pool voted in this election?

Been looking for that stat myself.

-bump-

32 posted on 11/26/2012 11:43:34 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Fu-fu2

Mitt could hardly BE mushy enough to grab the Obama base if they weren’t already fed up with Obama and just wanting something else.


33 posted on 11/27/2012 12:05:43 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: ansel12

Mitt’s potential base was still bigger. But he only pumped it feebly where it counted: the main vote. It’s a don’t-count-your-chickens warning.


34 posted on 11/27/2012 12:07:06 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Graewoulf
What % of the voter-aged (= registered and unregistered) pool voted in this election?

Here in Virginia it varied from about 50% in reliably red counties where Obama's war on coal should ave motivated a few more voters to 60% in the black and blue cities like Petersburg. In my own reddish rural county it was Romney 60-40 with 17k out of voting age 29k. Our lib/black precinct had much longer lines than elsewhere but I don't have numerical breakdowns for that yet.

35 posted on 11/27/2012 12:51:15 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Fu-fu2
I think it had more to do with Axelrod demonizing Romney/Ryan and attracting enough new low information voters to win

One Obama voter I am forced to deal with said it was because "Romney lies". I asked what he specifically lied about and she said "everything". I couldn't press it further, but I was not aware she was liberal although I knew she was stupid for various reasons.

36 posted on 11/27/2012 12:57:06 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Sam Clements
Zero’s lead keeps getting bigger. Why?

California is the last state to complete their count. And Zero won California going away.

37 posted on 11/27/2012 12:58:47 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
Romney might have won, but with Obama's Criminals running the "Justice Department", they'll never admit Romney won.

Black States = States Obama won by Voter Fraud. Click the state for more information.

Dean Chambers of UnskewedPolls.com Creates Obama Voter Fraud Map

Photo Credit: Barackofraudo.com


38 posted on 11/27/2012 12:59:53 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

One word...FRAUD plain and simple.


39 posted on 11/27/2012 2:58:53 AM PST by waxer1 (A Republic if you can keep it--Benjamin Franklin. Well we lost it.)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

It takes a lot of time to alter that many ballots from republican to democrat.


40 posted on 11/27/2012 3:15:13 AM PST by Iron Munro (Big Moo & Bronco 'Bama = Robbing From The Hood and Boy Blunder)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Who cares? It is all bullsit anyway.


41 posted on 11/27/2012 4:03:23 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: All

Perhaps the gloom and doom naysayers are right.
There is no hope. Forget it.
They went all out to steal the election by voter fraud. They are laughing their a**** off at us ‘sore losers’. Their lamestream media will make sure we are utterly defeated and humiliated if we even dare to say a word.....

Don’t even think of taking measures to prevent future voter fraud, because we have no ‘established leaders’, no media help....Don’t be naive or living in fantasy-land.....
Admit defeat.

Is this what you gloom and doom naysayers want to hear?


42 posted on 11/27/2012 4:26:10 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Looking at the state level table - the election turned on 463,512 votes in CO, FL, OH & VA. That is an electoral squeaker.


43 posted on 11/27/2012 5:50:03 AM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Ken H

Thanks, FRiend. PING me when you find that stat. Thanks!


44 posted on 11/27/2012 5:55:36 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: palmer

If half of us voted then that means that 1 out of 4 of us choose how the other 3 are allowed to live - - - .

PING me if you find that stat. Thanks.


45 posted on 11/27/2012 6:00:56 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: siunevada

“Looking at the state level table - the election turned on 463,512 votes in CO, FL, OH & VA. That is an electoral squeaker.”

Winning by that many votes from the millions cast is very fraud-worthy.


46 posted on 11/27/2012 10:52:50 AM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I think it is past time for conservatives to stand up and DEMAND that the Electoral College delay its judgement until this election can be thoroughly investigated.

Can we do a MARCH ON WASHINGTON in time?


47 posted on 11/27/2012 11:50:29 AM PST by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Excellent idea. THIS ELECTION SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED. However, anyone calling for that would be immediately labeled as ‘racist’. Susan Rice LIED to the American people to enable 0bama’s re-election in exchange for a promotion and.. We’re ‘racist’ for questioning her cover-up?? Perhaps Glenn Beck can get something started.. I do not believe 0bama won this election without FRAUD orchestrated by his union CHEATS.


48 posted on 11/27/2012 12:34:24 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: wastoute

AGREED. Nullify the fraudulent votes and Romney won this election.


49 posted on 11/27/2012 12:37:14 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: chrisnj

It means it is time to consider what we do when the ballot box is broken.


50 posted on 11/27/2012 1:41:29 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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