Honestly, I cannot think of one Republican who has a chance.
To me the single biggest issue is what we gather here for every Sunday: The media.
They still have enormous power to smear, lie, hide and ignore.
We’ve seen it all throughout this campaign.
The so-called War on Women’s opening salvo was fired by none other than George Stephanopolis, one of the main hosts of these shows.
The big lie about Benghazi—that Obama DID call it terrorism (but latter admitted he really didn’t)—was none other than Candy Crowley, another Sunday show host.
So, the propaganda boils down to:
Republicans are for the Rich
-A Rich that is evil and lucky (no hard work involved here, unless you’re a movie or rock star—and they CARE!), and is taking from the PEOPLE
Republicans are RACIST
-A party of rich, evil white guys who HATE blacks, Mexicans, Orientals and Arabs
Republicans are Religious Fundamentalists
-A party of women getting raped and forced to have babies; prevented from buying birth control and forced to pray to Jesus
Republicans hate Mother Earth
Republicans love big oil buddies
Republicans love war
Goosh, I could keep this up all day. Still, all of it is lies—but we cannot overcome this level of media involvement in the POLITICAL process. Moreover, it’s moved into our schools, music, culture... I don’t have a single answer to fix it.
rodguy posed a question to be last week — which household name Pubbie would I want to see running.
I have been wrestling with an answer for a week and still come up with zip, nada, none.
Surely, out of the 30 governors the GOP now has, they can find one good one to run. I oppose any ‘senator’ and most ‘reps’ — legislators tend to make poor executives.
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But, again, for 2016, the conservatives need to wise up, quit chasing after 4 or 5 semi-conservatives, thus splintering their support, and letting the GOPe selectee slip through.
Okay AB, let’s begin with your assertion that the media is in the tank for all things liberal, including candidates, ideas, yada, yada.
There’s is no law on earth against it. The ONLY way to control the media is to REFUSE TO WATCH THEIR PRODUCT!!!
So okay, that being said, nobody’s guilty of love of TV and such than mine own self.
One of two things will have to happen.
Some Conservative somewhere, maybe a Koch or even a Romney for God’s sake, will have to start a new network/newspaper, preferably a TV network/movie studio.
It’s easier said than done I’ll admit but first things first, pubs have lots of money, it’s time they start fighting back using the liberal weapons the same way.
Once the Tea Party gets its mold together we’ll have more power. The biggest weakness of the Tea Party is lack of organization and totally non-realization of their power, how to call it when needed, how to best utilize the power they have.
Huckabee called for a day devoted to Chick Fil-A for a conservative cause most precious. Boom, it worked.
Flocks of us poured into DC to protest, “speak” of our discontent.
We need leaders and an agreed upon call to action. We need to think outside the box.
Which brings me to my next big idea....FREE HATS FOR LIFE!!
Honestly, I cannot think of one Republican who has a chance.
I don't either, AB. I suspect it will take a pretty healthy collapse before people start paying attention.
Meanwhile, Dems will have a hard time finding another race-playing Obama. Old Media will become older and less relevant. Internets become stronger. Standard of living worsens. Obie's young voters become discontent collecting freebies and realize they'll need a salary to support their dreams. We'll all be taxed to death and cursing Obamacare.
Things will look different in 18 months....and drastically different running up to 2016. I'm confident it will be a POS few months and years, but a mid-term sweep like 2010 is a pretty good bet. At that point we can begin the fix. Too bad, Mitt would have been a good start on the fix.
Republicans do not message well. “They should all be fired” does not do much to gain support of the working poor when the other side offers them free everything.
I was over on a thread about Walmart strikes and anyone reading it would conclude the first item on your list, Republicans are for the rich, is true. I guess someone could have looked at the comments and instead concluded that Republicans are very hostile to the working poor.
As I think you are pointing out, Republicans have a messaging problem and I agree with you that it needs to be fixed. The Republicans that have been in Congress for years have never pressed the conservative agenda. They don’t know how to present it in a way that does not make it sound like Republicans hate everyone.
Never are there anyone who stands up for the American way of life present on these pathetic shows. Only moderates far left demagogues. Get along to go along BS "guests".
IN the end they are easy to counter. But lack any bravado found at FR and other sites on the web.
Pre-Crash or Post-Crash? After the economy collapses the public will be in a very different mood, and will be able to see the difference between builders and takers. Until we crash, too many people are taking the position that "things are okay, so let's vote for the free stuff guy or not vote at all."
Of course, that is working on the notion that we have already gone over the cliff, or at least reached the Point Of No Return.
With all that said, Pre-Crash Republican candidates for President will continue to look like Democrat-Lites, such as GW Bush, McCain, and Romney.
Post-Crash Republicans (or Conservatives, if you prefer) will have more leeway with the public.
And right now, any Republican who was not involved in getting closer to the cliff or PONR stands a much better chance than an establishment type. But, Pre-Crash, it will be a tougher road.
I must admit I agree but why do our candidates win in the south and mid west? How do we instill our values in the rest of the US? We have to figure out a way.
So, the propaganda boils down to:
Republicans are for the Rich
-A Rich that is evil and lucky (no hard work involved here, unless youre a movie or rock starand they CARE!), and is taking from the PEOPLE
Republicans are RACIST
-A party of rich, evil white guys who HATE blacks, Mexicans, Orientals and Arabs
Republicans are Religious Fundamentalists
-A party of women getting raped and forced to have babies; prevented from buying birth control and forced to pray to Jesus
Republicans hate Mother Earth
Republicans love big oil buddies
Republicans love war
Goosh, I could keep this up all day. Still, all of it is liesbut we cannot overcome this level of media involvement in the POLITICAL process. Moreover, its moved into our schools, music, culture... I dont have a single answer to fix it.
We will win when we have consultants who are willing to stealthily re-educate the electorate in what it means to be American, that is, Hispanics and Blacks as well. This means do it with boldness, not avoiding dictators like 0bama in the national election...Mitt, with all his faults and past liberal Rebuplican tendencies would have won had he had a staff who would have gone with boldness as Rush mentions almost daily.
How do we get a candidate who will be bold? Who acatually runs the RNC? Who elects Reince Preibus? While what I am saying sounds like we need a Third Party, I am in no way saying this...that is Perot all over again. Convincing those in charge to do the bold, re-education route and have Palin& West as your ticket is the way to go.
Its kinda like sending a letter to the RNC that says, I will promise to send X$ to you if Palin&West are the ticket, but will boycott otherwise...
Heres an example of my frustration. I have been married 17 yrs interracially. My wifes family upper scale black with 100% voting record D. 0bamma would have had to kill someone personally - and even then - theyd still vote for him.
I called the Columbus RNC and volunteered as well as the Cincinnati/Hamilton County RNC to volunteer...that is, as a consultant to help understand what it would take to convince blacks...what language, what triggers, etc....
I have a huge plethora or cornucopia of what would and would not work...inside info if you will...did they listen to me? Nope. Were they interested? They didnt know where to file it. I wont give up, however. Ill approach them again in a different way and talk to the right people.
You see, we are dealing with old school RNC; we have to be smarter...the DNC wants us to start a 3rd party; they know that is a civil war amongst ourselves...we need to takeover the RNC...that is the way.