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Pat Caddell: Republican 'Consultant-Lobbyist-Establishment' Complex Responsible For Romney Defeat
Big Government ^ | 24 Nov 2012 | Tony Lee

Posted on 11/24/2012 10:47:25 AM PST by Bratch

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To: dandiegirl
Primary elections should be held on one day for every state.

Impossible (or, at least, no improvement). No candidate except an "establishment" candidate (i.e. Romney, Jeb Bush) would have the money to run a national campaign without party money and they can't have that until after they are the winning candidate.

In addition, all the states would have to agree to this (and they won't).

81 posted on 11/24/2012 2:33:45 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: himno hero
(with the aid of the knowing democrats) into OUR white house .

He had plenty of GOPe help as well. Name one GOPe that has defined the President. One congressman corectly stated that there were about 80 members of the communist party in Congress, and now he is no longer there.

82 posted on 11/24/2012 2:48:38 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: Hardastarboard
So there's the issue out in the open. How to actually accomplish that marketing is the challenge that I haven't quite figured out yet.

We did our best. We ran a rich white guy that hates 47% of the people against a really nice man that is full of err.. hope.</sarcasm>

83 posted on 11/24/2012 2:53:59 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: abclily

Rove made millions out of this...what a creep.


84 posted on 11/24/2012 3:27:11 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: Bratch

A good candidate shouldn’t need consultants.


85 posted on 11/24/2012 3:29:25 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Bratch

Lack of leadership is what’s killing the Republican party.

With all the reaching across the aisle, it’s hard to tell the parties apart anymore.


86 posted on 11/24/2012 3:52:18 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: Williams
Your perception IS wrong. McCain was advised not to say anything "bad" about Obama, and ended up endorsing Obama--"He would make a god president". The consultants told McCain it would be a mistake to attack. However, there is a HUGE difference between personal attacks and comments on policy.

Romney was making huge gains after the first debate, but after that, he was advised to get back above the fray and NOT TO ATTACK Obama. We all see where that got the GOP.

Steve Schmidt, McCain's senior/main consultant is STILL making noises about the far Christian right ruining the party, when it is really he and other consultants like him giving bad advise.

Schmidt was the leader in trying to trivialize Palin's effect on McCain's campaign, when in reality, she had a much more helpful effect than Schmidts advice did. If he had gotten out of the way and McCain had grown a backbone, he could have won.

This article and Cadell's speech is on the money.

vaudine

87 posted on 11/24/2012 4:13:57 PM PST by vaudine
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To: itsahoot

... and thats the truth.

We are in for some tough sledding.


88 posted on 11/24/2012 4:26:06 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Are the cheaters in swing states the fault of the “Republican Establishment”?
Absolutely, without question. By failing to stop the cheating republican officials are complicit in it. There are still no complaints against the obvious fraud of 99% to 1% returns in as many as 100 districts, enough to give Obama victory in every swing state. The election was stolen and the republicans will do nothing about it. That is the greater crime against the people.

Exactly !! Where the hell are the conservatives standing ups and screaming about the fraud. WHY ?? This is total BS. The republican party has no balls to fight back on any issue. If you are in a street fight, you fight to win and the GOP wanted to be nice. WTF ?? They lost me in the future. I am a conservative and certainly not a republican.


89 posted on 11/24/2012 5:53:41 PM PST by Pedrobud
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To: Bratch

Its kinda hard to beat someone who is expert at stuffing the ballot box! America needs radical election reform to secure its soverienty by allowing only citizens to vote and protect the integrity of the process.


90 posted on 11/24/2012 6:34:09 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: Bratch
Campaign consultants make their money by commissions. In other words, the more money is spent the more they make. They do not make as much money in a winning campaign that spends less. Hence, the most important constituency to them is big-ticket donors: corporate lobbyists who fund BOTH sides.

The rest of us are to fall in line.

91 posted on 11/24/2012 10:01:56 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Louis Foxwell; newgeezer
Absolutely, without question. By failing to stop the cheating republican officials are complicit in it. There are still no complaints against the obvious fraud of 99% to 1% returns in as many as 100 districts, enough to give Obama victory in every swing state. The election was stolen and the republicans will do nothing about it. That is the greater crime against the people.

Thank you for an excellent reason to stay home during future elections.

92 posted on 11/26/2012 10:20:28 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Not voting against multiple ObamaPhoneWoman votes anymore.)
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To: DungeonMaster

FR needs a “Like” or “+1” button.

Seems like their software updates happened more often back in the day...


93 posted on 11/26/2012 10:25:09 AM PST by newgeezer ("... no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God." --Rom. 13:1)
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To: Williams
My perception could be wrong, but I don’t think Romney ran THAT bad of a campaign. Obama lost lots of support from 2008, Romney gained some. It was not enough. Obama still had a huge minority vote. But I didn’t see a terrible Romney campaign. He was pretty aggressive, he didn’t back down, he romped in the first debate, held his own in the others. If I want to Monday morning quarterback, I’d say that lull before the GOP convention, they needed to go more negative on Obama as Obama was “defining” Romney to many people in the BG states.

Romney was the personification of what liberals in my living memory have accused the Republican Party of being. Rich, separatist, white country club members. The JonStewart media did what no campaign accused of the image of white 'rich' people could ever undo or even unmask. AND Romney is not conservative. He could never explain what 'free markets' unmolested by government nannies does for every American.

94 posted on 11/26/2012 10:51:24 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: himno hero

That, and the fact we have a nation full of idiot voters. I think Romney ran a credible campaign—better than McCain but we underestimate the power of the press, the stupidity of the American people, the stupidity of those who are supposed to be on our side but think they can “teach someone a lesson” by helping reelect Obama and the fact we had rampant fraud.


95 posted on 11/26/2012 10:57:26 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Fraud.

Nails it right on.

Barack Hussein Mohammet BinGhazi Obama.... the greatest FRAUD ever perpetrated on the American people.


96 posted on 11/26/2012 1:17:09 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: DungeonMaster
Thank you for an excellent reason to stay home during future elections.

Cowards and fatalists may think so. Patriots have other plans.

97 posted on 11/26/2012 5:22:35 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
Cowards and fatalists may think so.

Excellent, another reason! You've been very instructive.

98 posted on 11/27/2012 5:11:26 PM PST by DungeonMaster (Not voting against multiple ObamaPhoneWoman votes anymore.)
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