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To: To-Whose-Benefit?

Let’s assume that it is BS.

Here’s an even more fundamental question -— Should people in a society based on liberty be allowed to believe and pay for foolish things? Or should we require laws PREVENTING them from paying for what lawmakers deem are foolish?

What if enough lawmakers believe that believing that Jesus Christ’s death on the cross redeems you from your sins is foolish?

Let’s chew upon that for a moment...


7 posted on 11/24/2012 8:17:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“Should people in a society based on liberty be allowed to believe and pay for foolish things?”

This is the knowledge base upon which Therapy is founded. There isn’t a Different knowledge base of Therapy which is intended for Christians and Conservatives. Therapy, as it were, is a manifestation of Gramsci’s “Long March Through the Institutions”

http://psychquotes.com/

Psychiatry’s Views on Religion

“Religion (is) a universal obsessional neurosis.”
Sigmund Freud, defining spiritual belief

“Religion is an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that it falls in with our instinctual desires.”
Sigmund Freud

“The religions of mankind must be classed among the mass-delusions of this kind. No one, needless to say, who shares a delusion ever recognizes it as such...”
Sigmund Freud

“Civilization runs a greater risk if we maintain our present attitude to religion than if we give it up.”
Sigmund Freud

“In short, the nature of the hallucinations of Jesus, as they are described in the orthodox Gospels, permits us to conclude that the founder of the Christian religion was afflicted with religious paranoia.”
Psychiatrist Dr. Charles Binet-Sangle: La Folie de Jesus (The Madness of Jesus), 1910

“…Jesus Christ might simply have returned to his carpentry following the use of modern psychiatric treatments.”
William Sargant, British psychiatrist, 1974

“No one knows just how the idea of a soul or the supernatural started… It probably had its origin in the general laziness of mankind.”
John B. Watson, behavioral psychologist

“This dogma (the soul) has been present in human psychology from earliest antiquity. No one has ever touched the soul, or has seen one in a test tube, or has in any way come into a relationship with it as he has with the other objects of his daily experience.”
John B. Watson, behavioral psychologist

“I regard myself as one of the most dangerous enemies of religion”
Sigmund Freud

“The soul or consciousness, which played the leading part in the past, now is of very little importance; in any case both are deprived of their main functions and glory to such an extent that only the names remain. Behaviorism sang their funeral dirge while materialism – the smiling heir – arranges a suitable funeral for them.”
Statement delivered at the Sixth International Congress of Philosophy at Harvard University

“…humanists still believe that traditional theism, especially faith in the prayer-hearing God, assumed to love and care for persons, to hear and understand their prayers, and to be able to do something about them, is an unproved and outmoded faith.” “Traditional moral codes… fail to meet the pressing needs of today and tomorrow…” “Promises of immortal salvation or fear of eternal damnation are both illusory and harmful… The total personality is a function of the biological organism transacting in a social and cultural context. There is no credible evidence that life survives the death of the body.”
The Humanist Manifesto 2, 1973

“All neurotics seek the religious”
Psychologist Carl Jung

“It should be recognized that an acceptance of the mental health viewpoint… carries an obligation to examine critically some of the teaching of the churches in the light of present-day insight into what seems to be essential to wholesome personality development and into what is now known to be detrimental to the growing personality of the child.”
Psychiatrist at World Federation of Mental Health (WFMH) Conference

“Pastoral psychology understands itself as a help for the communities in view of ‘group dynamic’ proceedings –e.g., the processes of rivalization, or the search for scapegoats, harmonization or shifting guilt, which… can determine life in a community so strongly that the succession of Jesus Christ is no longer paid heed”
The German Association for Pastoral Psychology Magazine – Ways To Man

“What is the relationship between wholeness and holiness?… What does personal responsibility mean in the light of the findings or psychoanalysis? Do the words right and wrong, have any further usefulness in the light of our new knowledge of compulsive behavior patterns? I believe it’s one of the tragedies of Christianity that it has got itself all mixed up with morality…”
Canon Sydney Evans, National Association for Mental Health, 1967

“The word soul has lost its meaning and even its plausibility…. Faith, hope and love can no longer be seen simply as virtues or graces; they are processes in flesh and blood… (the clergyman) will find that whether he wants it or not, he is also a front-line mental health worker or he will be so regarded by the specialists in mental health. It is on the pastoral role and the tasks of shepherding that the psychological disciples have the greatest impact in theological work.”
Paul Pruyser, psychologist, author: “The Seamy Side of Current Religious Beliefs”

“In recent years pastoral counselors have separated from their parishes and emerged as a psychotherapy profession…. This professionalization process includes a shift away from parish-based counseling to counseling centers or medical settings, declining interest in religious practices and convictions, increased interest in psychological practices and theories, the charging of fees, and increased institutional and professional barriers to those individuals perceived as poor counseling clients or unable to pay…. There is also… growing deviation from a religious orientation to a pseudopsychiatric orientation.”
American Journal of Psychiatry, March 1986

“We can therefore justifiably stress our particular point of view with regard to the proper development of the human psyche, even though our knowledge be incomplete. We must aim to make it permeate every educational activity in our national life…. We have made a useful attack upon a number of professions. The two easiest of them naturally are the teaching profession and the Church: the two most difficult are law and medicine.”
Dr. John Rawlings Rees, “Strategic Planning for Mental Health”, June 18, 1940

“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas...”
G. Brock Chisholm, psychiatrist and co-founder of the World Federation of Mental Health

“The danger is that these psychologies may, to one degree or another, replace Christianity without most people even noticing that any substitution has taken place.”
Christianity Today, 1994


10 posted on 11/24/2012 8:33:44 AM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“What if enough lawmakers believe that believing that Jesus Christ’s death on the cross redeems you from your sins is foolish?

Let’s chew upon that for a moment...”

OK. The 1st Amendment prohibits us, through Government, from funding the support of Christianity out of each other’s pockets, but FAR more Importantly, it prohibits anyone, through Govt. from funding the Suppression of Christianity.

2 way street. Hands Off going Both ways.

And there is Nothing Voluntary about Therapy. It is Not Science. It is BS, and as such it is Fraud. It is a legal impossibility to Volunteer to be Defrauded. It goes Way beyond just being Foolish because there are Legal Consequences attached to it: Deprivation of Civil Rights in perpetuity masquerading as Medical — which it’s Not — help.

Currently our Military is Drowning in psychiatric drugs — Which schlep their way in through Therapy — and the more of that Therapeutic meddling our Military dispenses, the Higher the Suicide Numbers rise.

The Higher the Suicide Numbers, the Greater the Racket Raised by the Sellers of Therapy/mental realignment/Voluntary/Non-Voluntary (because it’s fraud) Intervention becomes.

The drugs are garbage. Everyone in the industry knows it, and lies about it or issues a “No Comment”.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/medicatedchild/

http://alert.psychiatricnews.org/2012/06/military-suicides-continue-troubling.html

http://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/newsarticle.aspx?articleid=1096602

http://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/newsarticle.aspx?articleid=108552

http://www.opednews.com/articles/5/genera_evelyn_p_080122_jury_trials_in_2008_.htm 70% driving impaired

http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=3991
suicide, mania

http://alert.psychiatricnews.org/2012/05/facebook-joins-fight-against-military.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-bobrow/military-suicides-stigma-_b_1677798.html

http://battleland.blogs.time.com/2012/06/08/lagging-indicator/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaWrf8OISlg
John Breeding on youtube

http://psychrights.org/states/Texas/100209JBreedingLtr2TxLegislature.pdf
Breeding Letter

http://themilitarysuicidereport.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/militarys-rising-psychiatric-drug-prescriptions-may-be-linked-to-suicides-homicides/

http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/story/2012-06-07/military-troops-suicide/55453990/1
w/video

http://www.frontiersin.org/Evolutionary_Psychology/10.3389/fpsyg.2012.00117/full
Antidepressants do more harm than good

http://www.psychologytoday.com/print/68229
tardive dysphoria/chronic ssri use

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebound_effect
rebound effect

http://truthman30.wordpress.com/
check his blogroll

http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/psychiatric-drugs/antipsychotics/neuroleptic-brain-damage
Brain Damage neuroleptics

http://breggin.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=53&dir=DESC&order=date&Itemid=37&limit=10&limitstart=40
Peter Breggin

Brain damage, dementia and persistent cognitive dysfunction associated with neuroleptics (1990)
01/01/1990
“Brain damage, dementia and persistent cognitive dysfunction associated with neuroleptics: Evidence, Etiology, Implications.”


13 posted on 11/24/2012 8:52:34 AM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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