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10 Reasons Why Romney Lost And Obama Won -- A Two Part Series [Part One]
Conservative HQ ^ | 11/19/12 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 11/20/2012 11:30:54 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: Houghton M.
I’ve been teaching college undergrads for 30 years. There’s been an appalling decline in ability to think for themselves combined with an appallingly exaggerated sense of their own preciousness.

They are next to unteachable now.

My wife, the now (thankfully) retired university instructor, will move and second, automatically. ;)

61 posted on 11/21/2012 3:09:05 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Romney lost because voters saw no difference between Obama and Romney. Might as well keep the liberal you know as they say.


62 posted on 11/21/2012 3:19:55 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Expecting voters to know what’s going on and their reliance on MSM is just part of why we lost. While there are examples of fraud which may close up the gap, the gap is too big to blame the loss on fraud .

..Expecting GOP E’s to address media bias or Romney to call Obama a congenital liar or even point out that the fact and figures released by the white house were allways questionable is another Let alone call him a “socialist”.. Until we have candidates willing to do this and challange and call them for what they are ..WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOSE...

Even so (disregarding the philosphical differences) the fault lies really in the messaging the Republican campaign came up with. Choking on political correctness parameters or triping over past positions on global warming and Romneycare both of which were bread and butter issues. .Then busy responding to pseudo positions devised by the demo-com party and echoed by their hand maiden camp followers in the media allowing them to set the agenda ..

Romney ran a “Johnny One Note Campaign”. Used a poison dart blow gun when he should have used a cannon loaded with grape shot because he had pleanty of stuff he could fill that cannon barrel with..

THE DEMOGRAPHIC STRAW DOGS

This campaign failed to hammer away on what will happen when Obama gets retained; The Obama AHCA past due 2013/14 Tax Increases. The impact of Obama’s gagging energy resources (a socialist construct never branded as such) with policies requiring reliance on “free” intermittent resources wind and solar and that resulting in massive corruption .,Restricted use of drilling, discontuned reliance on coal ,bans and on fracking, and resulting prices doubling on everything.. This was a bread and butter issue which reached into every “demographics” pocketbook including accepting the demo-com definition of hyphenated African-Hispanic -Americans, college students and single women.

.The impact of Supreme Court Appointments.. 18,000 new IRS agents and on and on. . Some were very briefly touched most weren’t and Benghazi/ foreign policy was left to languish. Then there is Obama’s personal extravagance and behavior refusing to visit Nashville after its disaster showing up at New Orleans after Mitt visited it. Even after the Christi thing if that was brought up it would have blunted the impact.

Instead we got a sales pitch on executive ability but not the reason why one should toss the old model and buy his. That print and tv pitch , 20 million new jobs, was given a discrarded dose of skepticism .

In addition Rove who I understand was handling the Charter PAC senate campaign played games. His material never warned voters that IF OBAMA GETS RE-ELECTED AND SENATE CONTROL REMAINED . .. OBAMACARE AND ALL THE TAX INCREASES THAT GO WITH IT WILL NEVER GET REPEALED Let alone tie into or cover the formentioned grape shot which would have perhaps changed that body. I don’t recall any of that material directed toward that fact.

Finally they didn’t believe the polls which turned out were dead on. Even going as far as setting up focus groups which could have looked into what’s going on . Even to the point of going out to local eateries and bars and eavesdrop into conversations and pick up on topics being discussed.(chat rooms twitter too contrived) They would have learned their turnout projections were off and the sence of urgency to get out the vote was diminished by their glowing projections and disbelief never mind ORCA which should have been tested. COMPLACENCY WAS ENCOURAGED BY THE MEDIA AND NOT COUNTER ACTED UPON

WHEN YOUR GETTING RESPONSES LIKE “THERE AIN’T NO DIFFERENCE” and projections of heavy turnout... you got problems...Voters won’t show up.

Our local small population (-8000) rural blue county GOP had at the outset good and growing attendence at their meetings 50 plus. At the meeting the Thursday before the election only about a dozen people showed up and I knew we were in trouble .

Nuts...This loss is inexcuseable, while I trully don’t believe Mitt Romney would ever continence losing, I’m begining to believe that most GOPE’s really didn’t want to see AHCA, (affordable health care act) otherwise known as ZerO care go ..


63 posted on 11/21/2012 3:25:43 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"... and thus, predictably: the cow is now last week's hamburger. ;)"

And now the country is being made into sausage. The analysis of why Romney is useful, but going forward, there needs to be an analysis of what, if anything can be done, to pull back from the maelstrom after Obama legalizes millions of new permanent Democrats and makes the country dependent on a national health care system. How to get the country off of heroin like dependency on handouts will be the premier question. However, if Obama succeeds in destroying the USD and hyperinflation kicks in along with spreading Shariah law, we will no longer have a solution through the ballot box anyway.

64 posted on 11/21/2012 3:34:07 AM PST by Truth29
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To: napscoordinator
Romney lost because voters saw no difference between Obama and Romney.

I was repeatedly informed by Team Mittens' self-appointed advocates on this very site, throughout the entirety of 2012, that:

a.) ... as a socon, my views and desires were "statistically insignificant" and "fringe," and therefore did not merit serious (or even grudging) consideration or inclusion; AND, simultaneously --

b.) ... as a socon, my lone, individual vote was absolutely essential, and the only sure thing standing between The Forces of Light and C'Thulhu's Ravening, Extra-Dimensional Night Hordes.

At no point whatsoever did the thundering cognitive dissonance absolutely inherent in those two violently antipodal viewpoints occur to any of them, however fleetingly.

So, obviously, then: they ended up blaming Mittens' epic electoral belly flop on voter fraud. ;)

65 posted on 11/21/2012 3:36:13 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Bump for later reading


66 posted on 11/21/2012 3:39:24 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The GOPe is more afraid of us than than they are of the communists.


67 posted on 11/21/2012 3:40:23 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Truth29
there needs to be an analysis of what, if anything can be done

Viguerie's fifth paragraph entire seems, to me, as appealingly straightforward and sane as it does eminently do-able, in that regard:

"We can’t repeat this point often enough; Republicans never, ever win national elections unless they nationalize the election and include the conservative agenda – especially the conservative social agenda – in their campaign. Doing so isn’t a guarantee of success, but failing to do so is a guarantee of defeat.

Let's try that, just for grins and giggles. Lord alone knows, mulishly doing the exact, diametric opposite, these past two presidential elections, has yet to put even so much as Point One up on the boards. ;)

68 posted on 11/21/2012 3:42:11 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: onyx

>>I cringe every time I hear that McCain got more votes than Romney. Wrong. Sarah Palin got those votes!

Thank you! I pointed this out in a thread the other day. Many post-election analysis columns have done this, mentioning the fewer-votes-than-McCain while not mentioning Palin.


69 posted on 11/21/2012 3:42:24 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: kearnyirish2

>>Mitt Romney didn’t lose this election for ten reasons; he lost it for one: The media campaigned for Obama for four straight years, and suppressed Romney’s message.

You just identified a key reason why Romney was such a terrible candidate: He is completely unable to punch a message through and around the unfavorable media environment. Newt and Cain were the only candidates in this cycle who showed any ability here. This is a *must have* skill for a Republican Presidential candidate.


70 posted on 11/21/2012 3:51:02 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: FreedomPoster
You just identified a key reason why Romney was such a terrible candidate: He is completely unable to punch a message through and around the unfavorable media environment. Newt and Cain were the only candidates in this cycle who showed any ability here. This is a *must have* skill for a Republican Presidential candidate.

Let the record also show, incidentally, that the MSM waged no less vicious, feral (un)holy war on one Ronald Wilson Reagan for eight years as well, all-out and non-stop... and (mirabile dictu!) that never seemed to prevent him from:

a.) ... campaigning as an open and unapologetic conservative; and --

b.) ... W-I-N-N-I-N-G. ;)

71 posted on 11/21/2012 3:57:28 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Romney had already backstabbed conservatives since
throwing the 2008 election to Obama for their Soros.

Romney was in it for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
He and Rove cashed their checks on election eve
and were done with it.


72 posted on 11/21/2012 4:08:39 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Diogenesis
If you're expecting an impassioned counter-argument here, you've absolutely mistaken me for some other FReeper entirely. ;)
73 posted on 11/21/2012 4:10:36 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: onyx

I could not have put it better myself. Well done!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LLS


74 posted on 11/21/2012 4:13:30 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

You are on fire this morning!!! Love reading your comments, analysis, and rejoinders — I’m on board with your themes and analysis, especially the part about there being no excuse for such lame execution after spending the mega-bucks and time campaigning.

I look forward to your comments on Part Two. Wishing you and yours well for the Thanksgiving holiday...


75 posted on 11/21/2012 4:33:11 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Bingo.

Palin is the one. She is everything our side admires, and she does not seek, much of anything. Family first.

If we can convince Tod to share her with us, we can win.


76 posted on 11/21/2012 4:36:38 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: T-Bird45
You are on fire this morning!!!

Many blushing thanks. ;) Willingly ignorant obduracy does tend to bring out the fanged and the snarly in me; and lazy, pie-in-the-sky conspiracy theorizing and wish-casting, even more so. Call it a quirk.

Wishing you and yours well for the Thanksgiving holiday...

Likewise and redoubled, FRiend! ;)

77 posted on 11/21/2012 4:38:15 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; All

Is anyone else getting tired of reading another story on why Romney lost?

It’s time to focus on the solution, not the problem.


78 posted on 11/21/2012 4:39:03 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: Catsrus
And I’m going to add - that many wouldn’t vote for a Mormon

Given that Romney got more votes than McCain in the Bible Belt (TX, OK, MO, AR, LA, MS, AL, GA, KY, TN, SC, NC) the idea that his Mormonism hurt him can pretty much be completely dismissed.

79 posted on 11/21/2012 4:43:07 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: snowrip
Until the correct reason for our electoral woes is both properly identified and roundly accepted: any appropriate and/or effectual solution is, sadly, unlikely at best... flat-out impossible, at worst.
80 posted on 11/21/2012 4:43:27 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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