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Federal Workers to Congress: Leave Us Out of Deficit Deal
The National Journal ^ | November 20th, 2012 | Eric Katz

Posted on 11/20/2012 11:25:03 PM PST by Abiotic

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To: RFEngineer

“Politics and voting are not the reasons to get rid of Federal employees”

Okay. I was merely responding to some who paint with a broad brush and say that federal employees vote for democrats because they have to listen to the union thugs, and I said I don’t know any who do that but I do know one who votes for the weirdest candidate every time.

“they all retire as defacto millionaires”

You can’t possibly be serious, can you? Is it okay to tax us more since we are “defacto” rich? I’ll tell you what, if me and my husband ever depended totally on the federal govt for our living, we would not make it, let alone be thought of as a millionaire by anyone.

BTW, what we have, we’ve gotten on our own. We don’t waste money, and we invest. If we’re considered “millionaires” by anyone, it’s due to wise choices. Dems want to punish us for using that wisdom - conservatives should not even suggest it.

Anyway, thanks for the advice in the event my husband loses his job, but (fortunately?) his skills keep him busy. He already knows what he would do in the private sector because he has been doing it since he was a very young man.


101 posted on 11/22/2012 7:51:19 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: PGR88; All
In this country, we now have the Government Party. It is those connected with or living off the Government, its rule-making and enforcement ability, tax policy, and especially, the Government’s printed money. It includes many groups, from federal employees, to welfare recipients to large corporations.

Many smart people in the Civil service understand that for them to exist a healthy private sector is absolutely necessary. A great many of them, especially in the DOD voted against Obama, I can assure you.

They may be a minority of all government employees, but there are large numbers of them who want to get government spending under control, because they know that they are will be in for very hard times when the system crashes. Most also love their country and took an oath to defend and protect the Constitution.

102 posted on 11/22/2012 8:03:42 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
I suspect that retired military, retired civil service, and retired postal workers will all be put in the same boat for cuts before this is finished.

I'm not so sure about that. The civilian workers have others who will represent their interests. The military does not.

103 posted on 11/23/2012 1:23:28 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Heart of Georgia

“You can’t possibly be serious, can you? Is it okay to tax us more since we are “defacto” rich? I’ll tell you what, if me and my husband ever depended totally on the federal govt for our living, we would not make it, let alone be thought of as a millionaire by anyone.”

Let’s generously state interest rates are 2%. If you had a $1M at 2% interest that would be $20,000. I don’t know the exact figure, but the average federal retirement benefit is likely much higher than this. Yes, Federal retirees are defacto millionaires. hardworking taxpayers in the private sector must pay this, and because of that they are unable to amass the capital that they, themselves will need to achieve the same benefit, that they have earned themselves but that is stolen from them by a greedy federal government partly to fund over-pensioned federal retirees.

We simply cannot afford it. At some point hardworking private federal taxpayers will refuse to pay it. That day is coming.

“If we’re considered “millionaires” by anyone, it’s due to wise choices. Dems want to punish us for using that wisdom - conservatives should not even suggest it.”

Is it “wise” to milk outsized pay and benefits from the federal monster? perhaps. It is not “wise” to expect them to be there for you in the long run, because they can’t be - I, for instance, as a hard working private sector taxpayer, do not have enough money to give you to fully play out your “wisdom”.


104 posted on 11/23/2012 3:53:41 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: SgtBob

I pointed out that the Post Office is NOT mandated by the Constitution. You piled on with the following defense:

“That being said, a standing U.S. Navy, and her Corps of Marines, and the Post Office are the ONLY Federal Departments authorized by the Constitution. YOU get the Constitution amended, and YOU can get rid of my lazy ass...”

As the Post Office is not mandated by the Constitution, but is merely authorized, NO CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT IS REQUIRED TO DEFUND AND ELIMINATE THE POST OFFICE.


105 posted on 11/23/2012 3:53:54 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Abiotic
“No other group has been asked to financially contribute the way they have,

Dunno. Been laid off twice in the last three years. Never before in the previous 25.

Welcome to the party, pal.

106 posted on 11/23/2012 4:03:42 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Iron Munro
They bleed the taxpayer ‘til he dies of blood loss.

When they can’t get any more blood from him they curse him out for being so inconsiderate of their needs.

I'm happy to take the cursing. Trouble is, there won't be any cuts until we go over the edge. Not before. It would be the death of the Demo-commie Party. And the Party trumps all.

107 posted on 11/23/2012 4:08:47 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Thebaddog

The Ad Council Radio and TV spots bother me to no end. TAxpayers pay for those inane commercials, that say “hug your child” or some other silliness. I suspect billions and billions are spent on these senseless ads, produced by both parties I might ad.


108 posted on 11/23/2012 4:58:56 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: dinodino

I coudn’t agree more, but it’s their world bro, I’m just livin in it.

Regards, v_twin


109 posted on 11/25/2012 5:28:49 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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