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To: Flycatcher

and you just proved what a moderate republican or I don’t care voter is which got us in this jam. Go along. You are terribly wrong because once the taxes are increased, they only go UP. Play with fire because some of you are mad because Romney lost so give up, pay back to the rest of us that have a job who already are being soaked who do not want to give them more blank checks. Man, glad I was not brought up like this and had a great dad for guidance.


21 posted on 11/19/2012 1:44:11 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. As another FR member says..Obamas are living in gangster paradise.)
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To: Christie at the beach
ps the dems are not going to get the blame. They were rewarded at the polls, even after Obamacare. The GOP-e will loose more voters after the media blames them so we lose in the end..to get the base back out. Think long term damage. We need to be conservative every day in all political climates. Take care.
25 posted on 11/19/2012 1:50:20 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. As another FR member says..Obamas are living in gangster paradise.)
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To: Christie at the beach
I'll try to answer your illiterate and emotionally overwrought post as best as I can.

First, all these taxes are scheduled for implementation at the first of the year -- no matter what we do now. Can we overturn some of them in the foreseeable future? No. We control only the House. The Senate will not brook our efforts to overturn these tax increases. Ever.

Second: It IS possible that we can sustain the Bush tax cuts before they too go the way of the dodo in January. This is the only "revenue increase" that we have some leverage on. But at what cost? If the Democrats agree with us to sustain the Bush tax cuts, then they've made it clear that Republicans must then allow them to spend more on their programs. Don't fall for it. It's a deal with the devil. And the devil wins these things.

So what are our options?

A)Fight them on this battle. We can't win this one, but we can fight them. I believe that's your position. It's an admirable one. But this battle is unwinnable.

B)Instead of fighting and losing this battle, try to win the war. This battle is lost, but the war can be won if we can convert enough of the rabble to our side. How do you do this? Let them see socialism clearly for what it is. They chose it. LET THEM LIVE IT!

As the old saying goes, a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. If enough liberals are "mugged" by the nuts-and-bolts reality of real socialism, then we can grow a new grassroots conservatism to beat the socialists over the long haul. This isn't a short-term battle; it's a war.

And I'm willing to let Atlanta burn to win it.

31 posted on 11/19/2012 2:17:08 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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