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To: traditional1

I keep hearkening back to the 1950s when everything conservatives don’t want to do, i.e. unionization, high taxes, etc., was occuring and yet we had tremendous growth and a strong, vibrant middle-class.

How on earth were these things possible if high taxes and unionism are so destructive?

Of course the only thing the above items are destructive too is the accruing of most of the nation’s income among very few people but I’d like to hear your opinion.


23 posted on 11/19/2012 9:16:53 AM PST by ksen
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To: ksen
"Of course the only thing the above items are destructive too is the accruing of most of the nation’s income among very few people but I’d like to hear your opinion."

I live in an area that once was very "vibrant" with UAW, USW, and other Blue Collar Unions that drove their wages and benefits to the sky. ALL those industries are GONE, as they priced themselves out of the market, and those "very few" you say accrued the wealth are STILL accruing the wealth, but now are doing so with foreign investments.

Those who are willing to work (up until the past 10 years or so), could start out on their own, free to build a business, start a trade, provide a service, etc., free of government over-regulation, over-sight, over-red-taped, etc., and now INCREASINGLY over-taxed, and STILL trying to stifle them even more with MORE taxes, just to buy more votes with handouts, and destroy/control/take over private sector business.

In the early days of America, the least among us were helped up by direct charity and benevolence, not FORCED handouts to establish the handouts as the SOLE source of income, housing, food, etc.

Unions depress work ethic, and foster the same style of DEPENDANCE ON THEM, and funnel money to their benefactors from the Dues of the Members.

America is now a 3rd world-style country, with a virtual Dictatorship (executive orders and regulation, bypassing Congress), and the Socialist Workers' Party is alive and well, just like ACORN, living under assumed aliases like SEIU, AFSCME, UAW, AFT, etc.

26 posted on 11/19/2012 10:33:37 AM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: ksen
"Of course the only thing the above items are destructive too is the accruing of most of the nation’s income among very few people but I’d like to hear your opinion."

I live in an area that once was very "vibrant" with UAW, USW, and other Blue Collar Unions that drove their wages and benefits to the sky. ALL those industries are GONE, as they priced themselves out of the market, and those "very few" you say accrued the wealth are STILL accruing the wealth, but now are doing so with foreign investments.

Those who are willing to work (up until the past 10 years or so), could start out on their own, free to build a business, start a trade, provide a service, etc., free of government over-regulation, over-sight, over-red-taped, etc., and now INCREASINGLY over-taxed, and STILL trying to stifle them even more with MORE taxes, just to buy more votes with handouts, and destroy/control/take over private sector business.

In the early days of America, the least among us were helped up by direct charity and benevolence, not FORCED handouts to establish the handouts as the SOLE source of income, housing, food, etc.

Unions depress work ethic, and foster the same style of DEPENDANCE ON THEM, and funnel money to their benefactors from the Dues of the Members.

America is now a 3rd world-style country, with a virtual Dictatorship (executive orders and regulation, bypassing Congress), and the Socialist Workers' Party is alive and well, just like ACORN, living under assumed aliases like SEIU, AFSCME, UAW, AFT, etc.

27 posted on 11/19/2012 10:36:00 AM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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