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St. Lucie elections officials suspend recount; tally to continue at 8 a.m. Sunday
TCPALM ^ | 11-17-2012 | By James Kirley, Eric Pfahler

Posted on 11/17/2012 8:05:36 PM PST by smoothsailing

St. Lucie elections officials suspend recount; tally to continue at 8 a.m. Sunday

By James Kirley, Eric Pfahler

FORT PIERCE — The St. Lucie County Canvassing Board suspended its recount of all early voting ballots late Saturday night, saying members would return at 8 a.m. Sunday to complete the job.

The board made the announcement at 10 p.m. that it will continue tabulating write-in and provisional ballots Sunday after counting votes late into Saturday night as supporters for District 18 congressional candidates Patrick Murphy and Allen West watched the process.

Poll workers finished entering in early ballots for all precincts on Saturday evening, but the data has to be put into the computers for the final count. Also, write-ins and provisional ballots had not been counted before the security system at Orange Blossom Business Center was set to go off, Canvassing Board member Tod Mowery said Saturday.

Mowery said the data entry alone could take one or two hours.

Worn down supporters for both camps lingered inside the Orange Blossom Business Center outside the county supervisor of elections' office as canvassing board members and poll workers tabulated more than 37,000 early votes.

Murphy held a nearly 2,000-vote lead against opponent West in the District 18 congressional race.

Murphy attorney Sean Domnick said he was disappointed the votes weren't recounted by the end of Saturday night given that all of the workers were present.

“They should have it finished tonight,” Murphy attorney Sean Domnick said.

West campaign manager Tim Edson said if the process takes longer, so be it.

“Obviously we look forward to seeing the results,” Edson said. “We've been pushing for this full recount of early voting. But again, there's time to get this finished. We want to make sure it gets done right. Our goal is to make sure people have confidence that this is a fair and accurate counting.”

Suspending the recount ended a more than 12-hour day for the board that saw it played out in two different places.

While elections workers fed eight days worth of ballots into tabulating machines, lawyers for the West, Murphy, the St. Lucie County Canvassing Board and Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker were in Circuit Judge Larry Schack’s courtroom across town.

The Murphy campaign sought an injunction to stop the recount ordered by the county Canvassing Board Friday night, saying it was illegal. But Schack ruled against Murphy’s request to stop it.

The ruling pleased attorneys for Allen West’s campaign. It had protested last Sunday’s partial recount of three days worth of early voting, saying the recount should have included all eight days.

“Mr. Murphy’s papers filed in court today were both procedurally and substantively lacking,” West attorney Chris Winkelman said, “and for that reason the judge denied his order.”

West’s team argued that Murphy’s campaign had insufficient grounds to argue that the county’s canvassing board broke Florida law when it voted 2 to 1 Friday for Saturday’s full recount of all early votes.

Domnick disagreed.

“There is no allegation that I’m aware of, from anybody, of illegal votes or rejection of legal votes,” Domnick said. He argued the Florida Legislature passed strick statutes to limits when recounts can be demanded and these had been broken by the Canvassing Board.

“Then, we’re right back to where we were before this statutory scheme was enacted by the Legislature,” Domnick said, “and that’s allowing disappointed parties to henpeck at perceived irregularities and recount and recount and recount.”

Judge Kathryn Nelson, the dissenting vote on the Canvassing Board, had been subpoenaed by Murphy’s attorneys to testify at Saturday’s hearing. But she did not testify.

Instead, Schack ruled that Murphy’s request for an injunction to stop the recount failed to prove irreparable harm.

“If Mr. Murphy comes out on the losing end of the recount, he has adequate remedy pursuant to Florida (law),” Schack said.

Domnick said that would be to contest the election results in Leon County Circuit Court in Tallahassee.

But Domnick added he didn’t expect Saturday’s recount of ballots would reverse Murphy’s lead over West.

“There aren’t enough votes out there to change this,” Domnick said after the hearing. “Patrick Murphy is the winner.”

The recount, of all votes cast in early voting,not just those for District 18, was prompted by a state elections auditor finding a box of 306 early voting ballots Friday that never were counted.

It began at the Supervisor of Elections office on Okeechobee Road shortly after 11 a.m. Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker was hospitalized on Friday and was not at Saturday’s recount. Her administrative assistant, Annie Clark, oversaw election workers.

The Canvassing Board has a tight window to finish the recount, as it must finalize results to send to the state by noon Sunday. The state certifies all races Tuesday.

Earlier Saturday morning, Canvassing Board member Tod Mowery addressed a crowd gathered behind a barrier of orange traffic cones that separated observers from machines and election workers. About 100 people were at the elections office by 9 a.m.

Mowery confirmed the 306 uncounted ballots had been “noted” Friday by state Division of Elections officials visiting St. Lucie County. Later, he said those uncounted ballots contained one or more write-in choices that caused tabulating machines to reject them.

All those ballots were cast on Nov. 1-3, the days which had been recounted last Sunday, Mowery said.

Regardless of what happens Saturday, the Fort Pierce mayoral race should not be affected. Mowery said all ballots had been recounted Wednesday in that close race, which Linda Hudson won over Vince Gaskin.

There was a heavy presence of law enforcement officers at Saturday’s recount. Mowery said they were on site because there were open ballots in the room that needed protected.

Last Sunday, during a partial recount of early ballots, tempers flared among some observers when a lone sheriff’s deputy ordered the building cleared moments after the Canvassing Board announced Murphy still led in votes.

In addition to observers from both Murphy and West campaigns, there also was a contingent from the U.S. House Administrative Committee at Saturday’s recount. One of those observers, Mark Braden, said they had been called to Fort Pierce by the West campaign.

Braden said the District 18 contest was one of about a half-dozen races nationwide to which committee observers had been called.

On Friday, David Drury, head of the Division of Elections Bureau of Voting Systems Certifications on hand for the audit, made a “personal” recommendation the St. Lucie County Canvassing Board rerun ballots from five early voting days that hadn’t been counted last Sunday. The board decided instead to count all eight days.

On Friday, St. Lucie County Judge Dan Vaughn denied West’s motion to order a recount of all 37,379 early ballots. Vaughn ruled he didn’t have authority to call for a recount, but said his decision didn’t “bind the canvassing board from doing what they think is appropriate in these circumstances.”


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1 posted on 11/17/2012 8:05:41 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks very much, smoothsailing.

My prayers belong to Col. Allen West!


2 posted on 11/17/2012 8:11:15 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: smoothsailing

They can’t seem to stop an alarm?
This gives them time to send in the buses of Obama voters to cause a scene.
Good grief.


3 posted on 11/17/2012 8:11:49 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: smoothsailing
They need to go through the voter records too.

How many dead folks voted twice?

4 posted on 11/17/2012 8:12:15 PM PST by Paladin2
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Allen West Republic
12 minutes ago
UPDATE ALLEN WEST - I asked, how is the being automaticity set, when you guys were here until 2 am on election night.... They’re response to me.. We are closing. Sheriff then ask me leave

Allen West Republic
36 minutes ago
UPDATE ALLEN WEST - SOMETHING ODD AND FISHY PER @Gary_Galiano - they are shutting the mall down at 11 (an abandoned mall) for the alarm is set automatically at that time. They counted 37k votes in 12 hours but can’t count 304 votes in 2 hours. They kept yapping about the deadline and now this. SOMETHING IS ROTTEN IN DENMARK FOLKS BE PREPARED. They want to come back at 8am and their deadline is tomorrow by NOON.

https://www.facebook.com/AllenWestRepublic


5 posted on 11/17/2012 8:13:47 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Paladin2

I think they will never know the extent of the fraud. Ms. Walker is conveniently in the hospital and they shut down counting because of an alarm. (really lame excuse)


6 posted on 11/17/2012 8:14:10 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: machogirl

Something smells..I read earlier that they counted 37k votes in 12 hours but couldn’t count the remaining “missing” 304 votes in 2 hours time. The alarm excuse stinks to high heaven!


7 posted on 11/17/2012 8:17:18 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: smoothsailing

If they were OWS protestors, would the Sheriff order them out? (rhetorical)


8 posted on 11/17/2012 8:17:35 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: rainee

Sure does. Stinks worse than the cat litter box right now.


9 posted on 11/17/2012 8:18:17 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: machogirl

Will the volunteers man a perimeter overnight?


10 posted on 11/17/2012 8:19:34 PM PST by research99
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To: smoothsailing

What were the boxes the deputies carried in? What was the deal on ballots claimed to be found in a HS gym?


11 posted on 11/17/2012 8:19:34 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: smoothsailing
Thanks for the update. Prayers up for Col West and this entire fiasco getting straightened out.

I hope they don't leave the building/mall...don't leave these ballots!!

12 posted on 11/17/2012 8:21:32 PM PST by Jane Long ("Miss me yet?" - Mitt)
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To: smoothsailing
They are lieing and the sheriff’s dept. is complicit!
13 posted on 11/17/2012 8:22:26 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: smoothsailing

Who’s watching those ballots?


14 posted on 11/17/2012 8:22:47 PM PST by annieokie
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To: smoothsailing

After what went on in Washington state governor’s when they kept finding ballots until the rat candidate was over the top....I don’t trust anything these people do.

When does anyone hear of the possibility of a Republican stealing an election?


15 posted on 11/17/2012 8:24:21 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - both were a coup d'etat.)
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To: smoothsailing

Your post mentioned Judge Nelson. She has had problems.

Nelson was arrested Oct. 25 after she struck a guardrail several times on the Merrill Barber Bridge in Vero Beach before crashing, according to police reports and a state Judicial Qualifications Commission investigation. She smelled of alcohol, her eyes were glassy and her clothes were in disarray. Nelson identified herself as a judge and refused to perform sobriety exercises.

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/oct/01/st-lucie-county-judge-convicted-of-dui-by-state/


16 posted on 11/17/2012 8:25:34 PM PST by fudimo
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The State needs to go through the voter records and see how many times SantaBama and H0lder and dead peeps and NYC’ers voted in the county.


17 posted on 11/17/2012 8:25:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: fudimo
"her clothes were in disarray."

Where were the four Star Generals that night?

18 posted on 11/17/2012 8:27:30 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Not sure. I read about that but have seen no further explanation.


19 posted on 11/17/2012 8:27:37 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: research99

I wonder if Sheriff is kicking them off the property also?
Hard to trust any vote in this County or any other that has no chain of custody to protect the sanctity of the vote.


20 posted on 11/17/2012 8:27:37 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: fudimo

So she thinks she’s special and above the law? Couldn’t have guessed.


21 posted on 11/17/2012 8:28:51 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: Paladin2

The state is already showing sighs of surrender, governor says to get over it about the election.


22 posted on 11/17/2012 8:29:25 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Aria

I can’t think of a Republican County “finding lost” votes.


23 posted on 11/17/2012 8:30:01 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The State needs to become like a Pit Bull.


24 posted on 11/17/2012 8:30:51 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Jane Long

no matter what, IIRC, West can still get a full recount if he needs to by paying for it...now, between freepers, army vets, patriots and convervatives, etc....we’ll help him...


25 posted on 11/17/2012 8:31:33 PM PST by cherry
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
governor says to get over it about the election.

I've not heard that...do you have a link for that? If he's saying that, then he needs to hear from all of us.

26 posted on 11/17/2012 8:37:40 PM PST by Jane Long ("Miss me yet?" - Mitt)
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To: fudimo

ALEX BOERNER/TREASURE COAST NEWSPAPERS St. Lucie County canvassing board member County Judge Kathryn Nelson places a duplicated absentee ballot into a box designating it for counting Friday afternoon at the St Lucie County Supervisor of Elections office in Fort Pierce. The St. Lucie County canvassing board met Friday to decide whether to allow a recount of all the St. Lucie County early voting ballots.

She's the Canvassing Board member who was the dissenting vote in the 2-1 vote to have the recount.

27 posted on 11/17/2012 8:40:01 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
"a duplicated absentee ballot"

Duplicated? Trouble there.

28 posted on 11/17/2012 8:41:38 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: smoothsailing

Hiya Smoothsailing:

I no longer have any faith in the voting systems after seeing the following videos-

Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting Machines (Ohio) - 11:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbf3iaEbAuY

Urgent america......hacking democracy 9/9= Diebold voting machines are fraud! - 9:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lhJVa2AnyE

Hacking Democracy - Full Length - 1:21:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVTXbARGXso

Bev Harris of Black Box Voting did the last two, and they show that the memory cards containing the totals from the scanners are easily rigged by a competent programmer - Democrat OR Republican!

Without a full recount with *clean* machines West will still lose. We are screwed!


29 posted on 11/17/2012 8:43:09 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: smoothsailing

“The recount, of all votes cast in early voting,not just those for District 18, was prompted by a state elections auditor finding a box of 306 early voting ballots Friday that never were counted. “

If the chain of custody has been broken then they should not be counted. Reading the comments by West. It sounds like the election people have even found a way to cheat on recounting ballots. Those ballots are so tainted by now that counting them does not mean anything anyway. The whole election would have to be run over under controlled conditions.


30 posted on 11/17/2012 8:45:54 PM PST by Revel
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To: smoothsailing

Embarrassing that these women are so incompetent.
(I say that as a female, genetic female)


31 posted on 11/17/2012 8:47:01 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: smoothsailing

Crooked judge she is.

http://www.cbs12.com/news/features/treasure-coast/stories//images/Kathryn_Nelson_H9niJ.jpg


32 posted on 11/17/2012 8:48:54 PM PST by fudimo
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To: machogirl
"I think they will never know the extent of the fraud. Ms. Walker is conveniently in the hospital and they shut down counting because of an alarm. (really lame"

This pattern is vaguely familiar. Hm, where have I seen it before where there's shady dealings, a cover up, people suddenly are unavailable, stonewalling...

33 posted on 11/17/2012 8:54:44 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: smoothsailing
I said the other day that they will do everything in their power to avoid having to recount the election day ballots.

If they count the election day ballots, all heck breaks loose.

-PJ

34 posted on 11/17/2012 8:56:16 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Sheriffs are union thugs with guns. They will not be our friends when the SHTF. Even our DOGS aren’t safe. The biatch in the ‘hospital’? That’s an evasive maneuver. Obviously. She done WRONG!


35 posted on 11/17/2012 8:56:28 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: smoothsailing

Another 304 ballots “found” tomorrow morning in a closet?


36 posted on 11/17/2012 8:58:02 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: fudimo

Manson family?


37 posted on 11/17/2012 8:58:50 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: uncommonsense

Lib-play handbook? ;)

I’d be embarrassed as heck if my County counted votes like that. Be it Dem or Repub or Indie, they wouldn’t get my vote and my taxpayer funded job.


38 posted on 11/17/2012 9:02:48 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Now that you mention it. She does have that look of one of the followers. :)


39 posted on 11/17/2012 9:04:19 PM PST by fudimo
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To: smoothsailing

Surely they know how this looks.


40 posted on 11/17/2012 9:08:55 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76

“Don’t call her Shirley”!


41 posted on 11/17/2012 9:10:26 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: machogirl

Ahhh for “like” button :)


42 posted on 11/17/2012 9:11:28 PM PST by Ray76
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To: machogirl

I know smooth is a he. The “Shirley” was meant for Ms. Walker and co. (felt i should explain the Airplane reference)


43 posted on 11/17/2012 9:12:56 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: cherry

Maybe they could have dead people count the votes. Hell, they voted!


44 posted on 11/17/2012 9:13:31 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Ray76

That movie was so un-PC and funny!


45 posted on 11/17/2012 9:14:09 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: machogirl

It seems to me that this is calculated to enable challenges. This was all a dog and pony show.


46 posted on 11/17/2012 9:20:03 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76

Certainly does. I hope the intention is not for it either a : circus, and exhibition of how to win an election by fraud, or for a new reality tv show called, “Counting Votes”. Draw in the male vote by skimpy dressed democrat vote counters like Ms. Walker and Judge Neslon. (the benedryl is kicking in now, i a m t y p i n g v e r y s l o w l y


47 posted on 11/17/2012 9:32:10 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: Aria

Nixon


48 posted on 11/17/2012 9:55:01 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Aria

Nixon


49 posted on 11/17/2012 9:55:11 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Aria

Nixon


50 posted on 11/17/2012 9:55:11 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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