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Was Obama briefed that Benghazi was a terror attack before Rice went on TV?
HotAir.com ^ | November 17, 2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 11/17/2012 9:36:03 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike

So says John Solomon at the Washington Guardian, citing sources within the intelligence community. Within 72 hours, the Presidential Daily Briefing made it clear, according to Solomon, that the attack did not arise from a spontaneous mob protesting a YouTube video, but instead resulted from a planned, coordinated attack by radical Islamist “extremists” with links to al-Qaeda:

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Jennifer Rubin calls this game over for the administration’s defense of Susan Rice, and of the President himself:
1 posted on 11/17/2012 9:36:05 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I’m skeptical that Obama wears briefs. I suspect that he wears “drive in” panties.


2 posted on 11/17/2012 9:38:19 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Not likely, Obama rarely attends briefings.


3 posted on 11/17/2012 9:42:23 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Do bears Sh&t in the woods?


4 posted on 11/17/2012 9:43:28 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Yes. Everyone with 1/3 of a brain knows that Obama is lying his butt off.

Will the media pursue the “Why”?


5 posted on 11/17/2012 9:45:41 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: TruthWillWin

Yeah, he was probably only repeating something that Jay Z told him.


6 posted on 11/17/2012 9:45:57 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; All
he was "otherwise engaged" in a (famous)
room / closet; next the Oval office....

7 posted on 11/17/2012 9:46:08 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: skinkinthegrass

wait til the truth comes out soup to nuts about the ACTUAL VIDEO

therein is the worst reportin ever

like callin the grassy knole a divot


8 posted on 11/17/2012 9:49:12 AM PST by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Ok, here’s my personal analysis of what happened on 9/11. Some of it is based on the facts that were revealed yesterday after the Petraeus testimony, some of it is based on statements by Obama and some of it is pure conjecture.

First all, there was a group of Obama top advisors watching the events as they unfolded in Benghazi, watching on a screen in the situation room.

Obama claims that issued the order that we do whatever it takes to get those men out of there (the ambassador at least). So I will take him at his word.

Then a little later they see the dead or dying body of the ambassador being dragged out of the building and paraded in the streets of Benghazi by the terrorists. (No they weren’t taking him to the hospital as Hillary claimed)

That is when Obama issued the stand down, figuring that it was over, too late, nothing could be done and he didn’t want to further anger the terrorists. Obama never gave a second thought to the others at the CIA facility a mile away.

Obama gave up and went to bed because he had a big day of campaigning planned and the rest of the people in the situation room (probably Panetta, Biden, Clapper and a couple of others) told him that they would stay and monitor the situation.

Then the second wave of the attack started and Panetta and the others made the decision not to wake Obama and to do nothing. It was a giant Charley Foxtrot and it was all their fault.

So, they came up with the cover story, including the idiocy about the ambassador being carried to the hospital, and the false narrative about the video. I think that they also came up with the idea to blame Petraeus if the narrative began to fall apart, which it did.

For that reason, I believe that Clapper played a large role in the creation of the false narrative.


9 posted on 11/17/2012 9:52:36 AM PST by Eva
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To: advertising guy; Uncle Miltie

“As my tagline says, 0bama preferred to watch an Islamofascist Snuff Film rather than a Heroic American Rescue Film.

The drones have it all on film. I think Americans ought to be able to listen to and watch the whole 7 hours of horror with a crawler below showing exactly what the president was doing:

President goes to bathroom.
President smokes a cigarette.
President brushes teeth.
President checks flight to Las Vegas in the morning.
President reminds Situation Room not to bother him under any circumstances.
President goes to bed.
President asleep.

All while the Americans are having a fire-fight watched by drones, screams for help recorded on tape, dead bodies heat signatures dropping, etc.

Turn this into a made for the Internet Movie.

Let’s hang that around his neck forever.

10 posted on Fri Nov 16 2012 12:29:00 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) by Uncle Miltie (0BAMA CHOSE to watch a MUSLIM SNUFF FILM rather than a HEROIC AMERICAN RESCUE FILM)
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10 posted on 11/17/2012 9:53:02 AM PST by reagandemocrat (Bam wants to be FDR so bad, he'll start WWIII)
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To: Eva

An American loving President would see the dead body dragged and then sent in some bombs and bullets to give them a lot of bodies to drag away. But, Obama went to sleep.


11 posted on 11/17/2012 9:56:37 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

obama is not a lover of America. Nor are those that voted for him.


12 posted on 11/17/2012 9:58:53 AM PST by sport
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To: wesagain

Who was responsible for zero & Hildabeast making those Public Pleas on Islamic TV about the attack being a ‘Protest’ against that ugly U-tube video? Taxpayers money was spent on those apology speeches.


13 posted on 11/17/2012 9:59:37 AM PST by Tomato lover (God is in control)
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To: sport

True. A REAL American President would see the bodies, and say, “Oh you did this to us? Well watch us now because here we come.”


14 posted on 11/17/2012 10:01:12 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: reagandemocrat

“...The American people made their choice in November on the president, but it now appears they were duped regarding the real facts concerning Benghazi. What are we going to do about that?”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/breaking-the-president-knew-the-truth-about-benghazi/2012/11/16/39aecaf0-3034-11e2-9f50-0308e1e75445_blog.html


15 posted on 11/17/2012 10:01:54 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("God only knows it's not what we would choose to do." - Lyric from Us and Them - Pink Floyd)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Negro please!
Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood homies murdered the white boys in Benghazi to celebrate the anniversary of 9/11—their ultimate triumph against the Great Satan.
Rice is an accomplished commie liar and she did her job to reelect the big commie liar...

...believe me fellow patriots, thanks to half the population being leeches, moochers parasites morons or shiftless black and white trash, the anti-tyanny fail-safe 2nd Amendment will be activated.

16 posted on 11/17/2012 10:04:03 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Obama is the PC fascist Soros was looking for.")
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To: Hotlanta Mike
That fake video Obama and his crew hoisted upon US was to foment global Muslim rage. Check out what Obama said at the UN. He pretty much laid out what the intent was by that fake video.

I call the fake film maker ‘his crew’ because Obama has not once shouted out about the fake film maker's claim to be an Israeli Jew and the fake film maker solicitation of a Christian preacher Jones to help spread the video. Why how did General Dempsey know who had contacted preacher Jones?

I view this fake video getting advertised by Obama, Clinton, and Rice as similiar to liberals street theater OccupyWallStreet against Romney. Problem for the liberals happened when the terrorists hijacked their video mission.

Hillary Clinton is the first official of the US who blamed that video for Benghazi: Noted the date, it was still 9-11-2012 when this was released.

http://statedept.tumblr.com/post/31380336590/statement-by-secretary-clinton-on-the-attack-in

Statement by Secretary Clinton on the Attack in Benghazi

Press Statement
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of State
Washington, DC
September 11, 2012


I condemn in the strongest terms the attack on our mission in Benghazi today. As we work to secure our personnel and facilities, we have confirmed that one of our State Department officers was killed. We are heartbroken by this terrible loss. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and those who have suffered in this attack.

This evening, I called Libyan President Magariaf to coordinate additional support to protect Americans in Libya. President Magariaf expressed his condemnation and condolences and pledged his government’s full cooperation.

Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.

In light of the events of today, the United States government is working with partner countries around the world to protect our personnel, our missions, and American citizens worldwide.

17 posted on 11/17/2012 10:07:02 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Enterprise

Well Obama sure does get those panties in a bunch!


18 posted on 11/17/2012 10:08:25 AM PST by NEBO (Hitler, Che, Marx, Mao,Lenin and Stalin would be so jealous of Obama!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

While we all debate on whether the president knew whether it was a terrorist attack or a mob demonstration (not), I think we’re being distracted from the real question. Did the president grant CBA to aid the embattled SEALS? Who gave the stand down orders? Call it what you will, but why weren’t
rescue troops immediately deployed? This is a life and death issue first not a semantics issue. Susan Rice is a nobody.


19 posted on 11/17/2012 10:11:41 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Eva

Except that there was no way in real time to know the ambassador was dragged out.


20 posted on 11/17/2012 10:12:47 AM PST by ironman
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To: Enterprise

He wears tighty whities to make his bum more attractive to his many boyfriends.


21 posted on 11/17/2012 10:13:45 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Obama is the PC fascist Soros was looking for.")
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To: Hotlanta Mike; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...
Excuse me, but this is possibly the dumbest question of the week.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

22 posted on 11/17/2012 10:15:03 AM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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To: wesagain

Well about bears, we were in the woods last week, Sequoia National Park, (which by the way makes a PROFIT! We paid $34 each for dinner at Wuksachi Lodge restaurant) We saw lots of wads of toilet paper all over the place out on the trails, and we all said Da Bears! But really, the libtards are always whining about capitalists making profits, it sure is expensive to stay in National Parks! Is that not a profit?


23 posted on 11/17/2012 10:15:23 AM PST by NEBO (Hitler, Che, Marx, Mao,Lenin and Stalin would be so jealous of Obama!)
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To: ironman

They showed the video of the ambassador being dragged out to the Congressmen, yesterday. That is what convinced me that Obama issued the Stand Down at that time. He was watching.


24 posted on 11/17/2012 10:17:25 AM PST by Eva
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To: TruthWillWin

Yes, sorry to keep harping on the election by why on earth didn’t Romney ever talk about BO not attending these meetings?? He had so much and did nothing with it. Why do all these people working for BO always claim they don’t tell him anything. Is it that BO can’t take it and they are scared to tell him? Maybe they are so busy protecting their God that they think it’s better if he doesn’t know or they do tell him and then lie about it. It’s all so strange.


25 posted on 11/17/2012 10:21:38 AM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Hotlanta Mike

OBAMA HAS ALREADY TOLD AMERICA THAT HE KNEW IT WAS A TERROR ATTACK THE VERY NEXT DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OR HAS EVERYONE ALREADY FORGOTTEN...”Candy, read the transcript”.

WAKE UP PEOPLE, HE TOLD AMERICA HE KNEW AFTER THE FIRST DAY.

So how does Rice get a different message some days LATER!

THESE TWO STATEMENTS CANNOT LIVE IN A VACUUM, ONE OF THE TWO OF THEM IS A LIE!!!

Hold HIM responsible, that what he told us to do and we need to go after HIM!!!!!


26 posted on 11/17/2012 10:21:45 AM PST by R0CK3T
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To: Eva
we do whatever it takes to get those men out of there (the ambassador at least). So I will take him at his word

Why? Haven't seen any statement that he did anything.

27 posted on 11/17/2012 10:23:38 AM PST by what's up
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To: Hotlanta Mike
I saw that video shortly after the 911 attack. When I clicked on it, it said it had 50 something views. Later we learned that video had been out since June/July and it only had 50 something views? There is NO WAY it could have spawned a frenzy attack.

I posted that video to my facebook page and when I recently went back to see it again I found facebook had scrubbed it off MY facebook.

28 posted on 11/17/2012 10:24:04 AM PST by Spunky (We lost so now I am thinking of joining them and getting an Obamaphone.)
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To: what's up

I am taking him at his word because he had to first order the rescue, before he could order the stand down. Both orders had to have come from Obama.


29 posted on 11/17/2012 10:27:04 AM PST by Eva
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To: R0CK3T

My apologies for the use of caps, not something I ever do, but this is a BIG deal.

Maybe Rice should have taken her briefing from Candy Crowley, then maybe it she would have communicated it a a Terror attack? /sarc


30 posted on 11/17/2012 10:33:07 AM PST by R0CK3T
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To: Eva
You may be right although I have heard that anytime there is an attack on our soil (consulates are included) the military immediately goes into preparedness mode.
31 posted on 11/17/2012 10:33:13 AM PST by what's up
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To: Eva

If groups adversarial to Obama had seized all the operations in Benghazi, far greater damage to Obama’s foreign relations would have transpired.

Obama believes he controls those who committed the actions and the deaths were simply casualties in the ‘fog of war’.


32 posted on 11/17/2012 10:34:30 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: what's up

Only the president can order a cross border operation. There was no hardware or team stationed inside Libya that could have done the job. The operations were all on alert and ready to go when Obama ordered the Stand Down.


33 posted on 11/17/2012 10:39:43 AM PST by Eva
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To: Eva
The operations were all on alert and ready to go when Obama ordered the Stand Down.

Right. But from what I heard they were on alert because an attack automatically inspires that stance. I don't know that Obama had ordered anything (other than the stand down).

34 posted on 11/17/2012 10:42:51 AM PST by what's up
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To: Cvengr

All of the Libyan groups are adversarial to Obama. Obama may think that he controls the situation but he does not. They hate the US and only want our money. They want us out of their country. That is why Panetta and the others decided to do nothing when the CIA facility was attacked. They didn’t want to further anger the Libyans by responding with force.


35 posted on 11/17/2012 10:43:23 AM PST by Eva
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To: what's up

It doesn’t really matter whether he actually issued the order to go in, or not, only that issued the Stand Down and went to bed before the attack was over, leaving a bunch of partisan incompetents to manage the situation.


36 posted on 11/17/2012 10:45:56 AM PST by Eva
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To: Hotlanta Mike

In the 2nd debate, Obama said he was on the phone with his National Security advisors within an hour of the original attack.

==

One would surmise that one of the advisors advised him of terrorist/extremist actions going on in Benghazi.

That call would have been around 4:45 Washington time, as the attacks started just after 9:30 Benghazi time. Washington is 6 hours behind Benghazi time, depending on daylight savings time.

Note that per the daily presidential schedule, Obama was scheduled to meet with Panetta at a regular security briefing at 5:00 pm Washington time.

IIRC


37 posted on 11/17/2012 10:55:43 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Just mythoughts
Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet.

I figure SoS Clinton made that up. It sounded good at the time.

Then, when the head honchos met to decide what to do next, ' someone' instructed some low-level staffers to Google and find "inflamatory material posted on the Internet" they could use as corroborating evidence.

Someone found the trailer to the video/move; thus was born the movie-as-culprit excuse.

Note that several high levels, including Obama, were using the movie-as-culprit for the next few weeks.
38 posted on 11/17/2012 11:03:49 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: sanjuanbob

Obama voted present to save Americans over potential muslim casualties...the armed forces and diplomatic personnel should be enraged over this fact.

Or as Obama put, the death of Amb Stevens and 3 other Americans are just a bump in the road to better relations with islam.


39 posted on 11/17/2012 11:07:40 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("God only knows it's not what we would choose to do." - Lyric from Us and Them - Pink Floyd)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Possibly not.

We know he doesn’t attend national security briefings if they conflict with more important events, like tee times or campaign stops.
And as evidenced (apparently) by his congratulations yesterday to Egypt for helping to dampen the conflict in Gaza—while Egypt’s prime minister was in Gaza expressing Egypt’s solidarity with the `Palestinians’, Palis that Hamas rockets are now killing.

He doesn’t have the time to be briefed on matters critical to this nation, but does have the time to mug with the “not impressed” girl.

Obama “photo-op”= completely inept, incompetent, negligent administration.
I’m sure DU, the 47% and assorted American flakes are proud of their boy.


40 posted on 11/17/2012 11:31:30 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice
PS
41 posted on 11/17/2012 11:35:48 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Please. Obamugabe knew IN REAL TIME it was a terrorist attack! He chose to go to Las Vegas.


42 posted on 11/17/2012 11:59:41 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Enterprise

The Egyptian American who made the supposed video went to jail on “so called “ unrelated charges 2 days after the election has anyone checked on his story yet? Has everyone forgotten that he might have been a patsy and needs to be let out of jail?


43 posted on 11/17/2012 12:21:18 PM PST by lucky american (The Democrats will follow the big "D"even if it means going over a cliff.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Obama dared McCain and Graham to come after him. That’s a trap. He wants them to make this about Obama. He’ll just smile and say the mean Republicans are after him and then the media and his base go after the Republican leadership. Make Benghazi about Obama AND the failed Democrat thinking and policies that caused it. The minute the Democrats see Obama bringing the party down with him, they’ll throw him overboard faster than you can say”Chicago Grifter”.


44 posted on 11/17/2012 12:25:47 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

WSJ: Hillary’s on the hot seat, not Rice

“Actually, both Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice have a lot of questions to answer, but the Wall Street Journal is correct — the buck on the failures that led to Benghazi stop at Clinton’s desk, if not Barack Obama’s.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/17/wsj-hillarys-on-the-hot-seat-not-rice/


45 posted on 11/17/2012 12:48:33 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("God only knows it's not what we would choose to do." - Lyric from Us and Them - Pink Floyd)
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To: Eva

The phone camera video showed up after the fact on YouTube. . So your theory is flawed.


46 posted on 11/17/2012 1:18:08 PM PST by ironman
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To: ironman

Of course there is a way to know in real time.

Video.


47 posted on 11/17/2012 1:27:53 PM PST by combat_boots (Catho)
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To: combat_boots

Video from what? if you think the night time drone camera video would show something this distinguishable you would be mistaken.


48 posted on 11/17/2012 1:59:09 PM PST by ironman
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To: ironman

They didn’t say that it was a phone camera video.


49 posted on 11/17/2012 2:49:29 PM PST by Eva
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Jennifer Rubin calls this game over for the administration’s defense of Susan Rice, and of the President himself:

That is ridiculous. It all depends on how much the young white media guys (and gals) cover up for their black god Obama. So far the cover up and non-investigation has been effective. Why should the game be over when the media is compliant?
50 posted on 11/17/2012 2:58:36 PM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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