[NYer]

Link to the bulletin?

Forming Consciences For Faithful Citizenship

[dangus]

That wasn’t it, but I’m sure it was a major source.

This is it, and you’ll see what I mean by that particular pastor undermining it. Also, the ugliest church I’ve ever seen:

http://www.stmoside.org/pdf/weekly_bulletins/STMoside20121007.pdf