[GrandJediMasterYoda]

I said from the start we should have "tested some nukes" over there after 911. It worked wonders for the Japanese. The Japanese during WW2 made Al-Qaeda look like the teletubbies, they were a 100 times more vicious and insane. A couple well placed nukes and here we are today where the most aggressive thing they do is pushing Hello Kitty on us.

"Surrender immediately or - or I will pamper you!"

[devolve]

Liberated Iraq calls on Arab states
to use oil as a 'weapon' against USA



4500 US dead - 1 Trillion+ spent
More aid sent to Iraq every day
"Nation Building" does not work :

Somalia - Afghanistan - Iraq - Libya - Where next?

Gasoline - $6.44/gallon in one FL gas station!!!

[Cronos]

well, the Japanese are different -- these guys were our allies from the time we opened them up in the Meiji era through WWI.

They dragged THEMSELVES up from poverty and backwardness in the 1800s to being a first rate power in 1905 (defeating the Russians conclusively).

the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki like the firebombing of Dresden were horrendous from a humanitarian stand-point but necessary -- it showed the Japanese and the Germans that total war could also shatter and destroy them utterly

Both of these are industrious people and realized that their ultra-aggressive stances were a losing game for them. So they changed

But the Moslems (note, not Arabs, Moslems) dont' understand that, they are not industrious and their religion mandates perpetual war.

Nukes on Mecca and Medina are the way to go

Bush said "we aren't fighting Islam" but that was naivety -- we ARE fighting Islam. Every non-Moslem is doing that...