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To: RatherBiased.com

I’ve ALWAYS maintained that the MSM is all-powerful. Look at the viewers of the 3 main networks vs. FOX. Look at who’s in the White House.

Whatever happened to that guy who wrote on this site, “soon the networks will be just a few of millions of urls on the web. Shortly after the 08 elections the network newscasts will go dark...” Who was that guy and is he still here?


3 posted on 11/16/2012 8:05:52 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: Doctor 2Brains

You’re right. Too many on our side think that because they don’t watch ABCBSNBC that they don’t matter.

Totally naive and incorrect. Their audience dwarfs Fox News’s audience.


4 posted on 11/16/2012 8:08:09 AM PST by RatherBiased.com
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Same here. Most conservative outlets are preaching to the choir and don’t deny their conservative bias. The MSM is “supposedly objective, have been proclaimed as such from their inception,and people still retain some perception that they are. And as you say, they still reach many more people than do conservative outlets. Fox, merely by not being biased to the left like the other alphabets, was pasted with the conservative label though they never really have been so.


8 posted on 11/16/2012 8:21:31 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Goebbels would have envied our MSM.


33 posted on 11/16/2012 11:09:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Doctor 2Brains; abb
I’ve ALWAYS maintained that the MSM is all-powerful. Look at the viewers of the 3 main networks vs. FOX. Look at who’s in the White House.
In the founding era journalism consisted of notoriously independent printers, and newspapers were weeklies. In the middle of the Nineteenth Century, the telegraph network was built up, and the Associated Press united the printers, even tho they remain nominally independent. The crucial independence which printers gave up in joining the AP lies in the assumption - essential to the exploitation of the telegraph - that all reporters within the AP network are objective. If that isn’t taken for granted, the printer has no basis for trusting reports from journalists in distant cities whom he has never even met, let alone vetted and hired. That explains the massive propaganda campaign promoting journalistic objectivity as the default assumption. The public has been subjected to that propaganda barrage since the memory of living man runneth not to the contrary.

But if you look at all critically at the “journalistic objectivity" assumption, it crumbles of its own weight. The reality of journalistic perspective is quite distant from objectivity. The perspective which inheres in journalism is that the things which happened recently are important, and that the things that changed quickly are more important than those which change slowly, or not at all. Things which happen rarely are important, while things which usually happen are of no significance. And bad things are more important than good things.

The fundamental fact is that nobody can be certain of their own objectivity. That being the case, the most that can be expected is a good-faith effort at objectivity - and any such effort must begin with an open examination of the reasons why one might not be objective. The problem with that, tho, is that openness about the reasons you might not be objective would tend to negate the claim that you actually are objective. Any claim of actual objectivity is incompatible with any good-faith attempt at objectivity. And membership in an organization (e.g., the AP) which you know will claim objectivity for you is tantamount to claiming objectivity for yourself.

Whatever happened to that guy who wrote on this site, “soon the networks will be just a few of millions of urls on the web. Shortly after the 08 elections the network newscasts will go dark...” Who was that guy and is he still here?
abb

35 posted on 11/16/2012 2:37:40 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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