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To: kevkrom

There is some truth to what you say, but you are missing my point. How do we really know the segment that is immune to truth and logic is too big - when we are not really campaigning with truth and logic?

For example: How do we know, when Paul Ryan agrees that Obama and Biden “inherited” a bad economy, that people can’t understand that said economy was crippled by policies Obama and Biden agree with - UNLESS we tell them and stop agreeing they “inherited it” from Bush?

OR: how do we know, when Mitt congratulates Obama on bin Laden, that people won’t understand that tactics put in place by Cheney and Rumsfeld got bin Laden - unless we TELL THEM?

So yes, people are immune to logic - but especially - if we REFUSE TO EVER USE IT! And THAT is my point.

We only have to flip about 2%. Now, the longer we wait, the more we will have to flip, but don’t tell me it won’t work, if we never try it.


21 posted on 11/16/2012 7:21:57 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It’s anecdotal, for sure, but there is a clear pattern of people simply ignoring facts that do not correspond to their preconceived notions. I saw a Mark Twain quotation the other day, and I’ll have to paraphrase because I didn’t mark it, but it’s basically: it’s easier to fool someone that to convince them that they’ve been fooled.

People who have had their opinions shaped by the schools, the media, and Hollywood, simply cannot process information that contradicts that. I’ve seen it in action over and over again — they will either ignore an inconvenient fact, or if they can’t ignore it, they will dispute the source (”oh, that came from Fox News’), question the motives (”that research group is funded by a foundation who has one member who does business with the Koch Brothers!”), or, a personal favorite of mine, the good old false moral equivalence (”well, even if that is true, what about [insert totally irrelevant “counter-example” here]?”).

And that’s the behavior from people I know to otherwise be of high intelligence.


38 posted on 11/16/2012 7:51:21 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Thank you, I am amazed at how often the GOP simply rubberstamps the lies put out by the left. It is time to stop worrying about who is offended and just tell the truth and let the chips fall wherever they feel like falling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_s-Qk07KxA


54 posted on 11/16/2012 8:25:51 AM PST by RipSawyer
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