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To: yank in the UK

I hope eventually we can stop making excuses and start dealing with reality. Pretending that voter fraud cost the election is not part of reality.

Many of the claims in this piece have been debunked, but those facts are ignored because people want a good excuse, rather than the truth.

I think the 2nd commenter makes an excellent point, even if they didn’t mean to do so — Do you really think that 30 REPUBLICAN governors are deliberately ignoring obvious election fraud?

Better question — do you have any idea how hard it is to RUN FOR OFFICE? The sacrifices, the cost, the time, the energy? Figure that one out, and then answer this question — why would ANYBODY who has gone through that much effort just WALK AWAY from “obvious” election fraud?

The answer is clear — they wouldn’t. Allen West isn’t an anomaly — that is what ANY person who had the drive to actually run for office would do, if they thought there was a shot at winning.

But somehow, armchair anonymous internet posters think they are the ones who care, and that the actual people who ran for office are all mindless, clueless dolts who ignore having their races stolen from them.

That, my friend, is a fantasy world I wish I could live in, because I don’t like reality right now.

Exit question — why would any of you who believe this stuff want to FIGHT to put into office politicians who you think are so stupid that they can’t see obvious fraud, and so cowardly or lazy that they would fail to fight for their own election results?

The argument falls flat on it’s face.

But nobody is going to argue with you all, because it’s a fools’ errand. There was fraud, there were bad results reported, there are and will always bee things that go wrong, and sometimes it can change the outcome of races. These things all have to be investigated.

But unfortunately, that reality gives those arguing for the “stealing of the election” just enough cover to fuel their righteous indignation that anybody would question them.

So we will have to put up with more postings of stories about how 141% of the registered voters actually voted, as if that makes sense in ANY reality we deal with (for the record, the number was “ballots”, and there were 2 ballots per voter, and turnout was 70%).

And stories about how it is “statistically impossible” that a precinct could vote 100-0 for Obama. When in fact this happens all the time, and also when in fact statistics are meaningless in this context, because voting is not random, populations are not rationally mixed, and those claiming that there can’t be places where there are no republicans have probably never actually visited any of these places where there are no republicans, because if they did, they would understand.


13 posted on 11/16/2012 10:05:37 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“. Pretending that voter fraud cost the election is not part of reality.” “Many of the claims in this piece have been debunked”

Can you provide me with evidence that this has been debunked? I’m all ears.


18 posted on 11/16/2012 11:40:21 AM PST by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Your comments is useless.

Why you cling to the nonsense that massive voter fraud did not affect results is odd.


21 posted on 11/16/2012 1:54:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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