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And that. my FRiend, is exactly what they want you to think - even though, as has been pointed out on this thread, the number of problems is statistically insignificant.

You ever look at the dangers of prescription meds? Do so. Really, I mean it - spend some time researching the massive coverup going on of deaths and injuries at huge statistical values of patients on prescription meds. If you do, you'll never be fooled by pap like this story again.

Look, everyone needs to understand that they aren't just going after herbs and spices (and why the HELL should they be able to do that?) - they're also trying to classify food itself as a drug - fruits, vegetables, meats. They're arresting milk producers with ZERO complaints with SWAT teams and smashing their equipment and siezing their computers and literally dragging these people off like they're murderers. And that's not all - they want to openly, flat-out own your body and everything you do with it. And if you still snort, then consider your children's future under such a regime. Can't happen here? LOL, look at the White House - is IS happening here.

I know people don’t like the FDA, and there are times when I have problems with it too. None the less, these products are a bad idea. The body gets tired for a reason. It needs rest. If you start over-riding that need, in time problems will result.

And that. my FRiend, is exactly what they want you to think - even though, as has been pointed out on this thread, the number of problems is statistically insignificant.

I realize that's a rational come back to what I have posted. I would submit that all the data is not in yet. If something causes flush and rapid heartbeat, you should seriously think about whether it's something you wish to use. We're talking about your health and mortality here. Is that really something you want to risk for a few hours of elevated energy?

When viewing statistics regarding these types of products, I want you to keep something in mind. I reviewed claims of competing pharmaceutical houses for over 25 years. At times there were three competing companies. Each could provide studies to prove their product was safer, was better, and that the other firm's medications had problems that should cause me to avoid using their product.

I'm not addressing you with this, but there's an old saying, and there's more than a kernel of truth to it. Liars figure and figures lie.

You ever look at the dangers of prescription meds? Do so. Really, I mean it - spend some time researching the massive coverup going on of deaths and injuries at huge statistical values of patients on prescription meds. If you do, you'll never be fooled by pap like this story again.

Without realizing it, you have made my case here.

I said I have problems with the FDA, and now you know one of them. Now, do you honestly think only the meds approved by the FDA have problems like this?

Look, everyone needs to understand that they aren't just going after herbs and spices (and why the HELL should they be able to do that?) - they're also trying to classify food itself as a drug - fruits, vegetables, meats.

I agree. I do not approve. That does not mean there aren't problematic products that do need to be addressed. Do we want the FDA to turn all vitamins and food additives into regulated items? Absolutely not. Does that then mean that we don't want them to monitor any vitamins for food additives? I don't think so.

They're arresting milk producers with ZERO complaints with SWAT teams and smashing their equipment and siezing their computers and literally dragging these people off like they're murderers.

That's true. I don't approve of it. That still does not mean the product we're addressing here shouldn't be addressed.

And that's not all - they want to openly, flat-out own your body and everything you do with it.

That's true. I don't approve of it. That still does not mean the product we're addressing here shouldn't be addressed.

And if you still snort, then consider your children's future under such a regime.

Not exactly sure what you're advocating here. I'll take a pass on a response.

Can't happen here? LOL, look at the White House - it IS happening here.

I'm addressing one energy drink. I think it's reasoned to extrapolate that I would feel the same about others. If you wish to object to my thoughts on this product or product line, that's okay.

I try to advocate for what I believe to be sound public policy. I do think there are rational opposing positions. So far I'm not moved to surrender my position and adopt yours.