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To: MrChips

This was my original response when the legislation was still pendiing and for the most part it is still valid today:

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When this “health care for all” crap passes, right now the legislation states that it will be illegal to sell private policies over the date of passage. It also says that HSA’s will no longer be allowed. That means that my current policy will no longer be allowed and neither I nor my employer will be allowed to privately purchase an alternative.

I will not accept the “public option” that I will be dictated to join. I will not give the government control over my physical body. I will not pay their fines, I will not surrender to the impending warrant for my arrest. When they knock on my door, I will not answer. When they kick it in, I will make the news.

How’s that for unification, libtards? You loons are currently legislating my death. I will chose the terms and I will bring as many of you along as possible!

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“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security”


24 posted on 11/15/2012 7:46:31 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: CSM

my plan is no “health care”. I will have insurance, as I do, I just will not partake of medical services unless injured. Just injury insurance, stitches broken bones. Otherwise if I get sick I am gonna let it take its course. If I die, so be it.


25 posted on 11/15/2012 7:50:24 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: CSM

If you have your health, why, you have got everything.

He who provides and consumes the health care decides nothing. He who pays for the health care decides everything.

Bend, Oregon America!


29 posted on 11/15/2012 7:58:27 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: CSM
When this “health care for all” crap passes, right now the legislation states that it will be illegal to sell private policies over the date of passage.

No it doesn't.

It also says that HSA’s will no longer be allowed.

No it doesn't. (They probably won't be viable in a few years, but that's different.)

That means that my current policy will no longer be allowed and neither I nor my employer will be allowed to privately purchase an alternative.

No it doesn't. Do you like your current HDHP with the HSA? Do you feel there's no better alternative? Because I hate my HDHP and HSA. I have a $10K family deductible. In other words, I pay a lot of money to end up paying a lot of money unless one of us gets really really sick or really really hurt. These plans suck.

Regardless, no is making HSA's illegal, they're making them too stupid to push on the marketplace. With a max DED of $11k-something and the MLR's changing, the rates will have to rise to a point of stupidity.

As for your dire claim that your employer won't "be allowed" to purchase private insurance, I don't think we'll every see that day in America. Maybe quasi-private (like how private insurers proces Medicare) and the free market will always allow for those who can afford great coverage to get it through private insurers. I'm 100% confident of that.


32 posted on 11/15/2012 8:05:21 AM PST by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: CSM

“I will not pay their fines, I will not surrender to the impending warrant for my arrest. When they knock on my door, I will not answer. When they kick it in, I will make the news.”

Probably not how it will happen.

You fail to pay the fine, they won’t issue you a tax refund. If you have no tax refund, they will continue to send letters, and fines, over the years until it gets big enough for them to take directly from your bank account. No bank accounts, no refunds, then they will have your employer garnish your paycheck.

No paycheck, then ultimately they might take your property, but it will be a long, long time. And by then there will be a single payer, unionized health care system.


34 posted on 11/15/2012 8:20:15 AM PST by Geoffrey
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