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What I find disturbing is that people just readily accept these machines that are so obviously more amenable to fraud and outright rigging than voting that leaves a paper trail. What does it take for people to take a stand? I guess with the NFL, NBA, NHL, Kardashians, Real Housewives and American Idol we have our plates way too full for trivial matters.


5 posted on 11/14/2012 8:38:46 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: all the best
What I find disturbing is that people just readily accept these machines that are so obviously more amenable to fraud and outright rigging than voting that leaves a paper trail.

A paper ballot is no protection against a corrupt Election office willing to commit fraud. There are procedures to ensure that both paper and electronic systems are accurate, but, again, these procedures are useless in the face of internal election office corruption.

19 posted on 11/14/2012 9:02:52 AM PST by GizmosAndGadgets (How Free Are You In America Today?)
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There were several books published about this about fifteen years ago, and numerous discussions on Free Republic. One book “Vote Scam” explained how vulnerable to fraid the machines are. It related how mschines failed tests snd how experts could hack the machines. We conspiracy theorists on Free Republic have known about this for years.
Republican politicians have been disgustingly negligent for years in not informing themselves about the unreliable machines and demanding paper ballots. No excuse for Republican candidates not screaming fraud and demanding paper ballots.
We have a reliable honest system here in Wyoming using paper ballots marked with a black marking pen furnished to the voter and then deposited into a locked counting machine.
If there is any question about the count, the ballots are in the machine and can be taken out and counted by hand.
Diebold and other voting machine manufactures try to sell these machines for elections but the machines are unnecessary. All you need is the ballot counting machine.


29 posted on 11/14/2012 9:14:22 AM PST by tommix2 (,)
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