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Incredible. Can it be that someone in the Obama administration is actually making sense? Don't agree with the tax increases, but if Entitlements can actually be reformed, it may save the country. We are not about to go into the fiscal abyss because of Defense Spending. Entitlements are breaking the back of this once great country.


1 posted on 11/13/2012 3:53:23 PM PST by SkyPilot
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Panetta: We are willing to cut ten trillion out of the budget over the next century. All we want is two trillion out of the military budget over the next three years.

Boehner: Sounds reasonable. Give me a minute, I’m tearing up. I never thought we could be so bipartisan.


2 posted on 11/13/2012 3:57:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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“Entitlements” is money given to people who did not earn it. That would not be social security and medicare becausethe people who get that benefit paid into it their who working lives and planned on it for retirement. The other plan of liberals (they held hearings on this) would is to grab everyone’s retirement funds to fund a new entitlement of retirement to replace the SS and medicare money the government stole from retirees. That is the plan of Obama.

Why? Because it’s whitey money. His entitlement voters are not middle class whites who contributed to SS and medicare and who save money for retirement. It’s racial and generational based wealth transfer. Don’t cheer him on. It’s racist and ageist theft in the name of balancing the budget.


3 posted on 11/13/2012 4:17:20 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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When the 'rats talk about "entitlement reform" they mean stuff like "means-testing Social Security", not stuff like "encouraging able bodied welfare recipients to work".

I'd prefer that the Republicans just let this thing crash. Of course Boehner won't, but that's what I'd prefer. All we can do for the next 4 years is "Go Galt" and minimize work and taxes, so we don't feed the monster.

8 posted on 11/13/2012 4:39:46 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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how does the saying go? “We deserve the government we vote for”


9 posted on 11/13/2012 4:42:58 PM PST by dalebert
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I bet it will be means testing for SS and Medicare cost sharing for those they deem can afford it.


13 posted on 11/13/2012 5:16:25 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic
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I bet it will be means testing for SS and Medicare cost sharing for those they deem can afford it.


14 posted on 11/13/2012 5:16:40 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic
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Under Bush & Congress the Deficit increased 43% in 8 years. Under Obama & Congress the Deficity doubled that of Bush’s (86%) in 4 years. If you want to fix the probem, we need to find out “what” caused this increase and address that. Not too much has really changed under Bush vs. Obama. In fact under Bush we had 9/11, a “real” war (with bombs dropped), and a hurricance that cost much more than Sandy. Sandy doesn’t even account for the 86% increase. What did Obama and Congress spend it on? They need to look that First in order to address their fiscal problems.


18 posted on 11/13/2012 10:02:39 PM PST by annajones (Please Act)
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Under Bush & Congress the Deficit increased 43% in 8 years. Under Obama & Congress the Deficity doubled that of Bush’s (86%) in 4 years. If you want to fix the probem, we need to find out “what” caused this increase and address that. Not too much has really changed under Bush vs. Obama. In fact under Bush we had 9/11, a “real” war (with bombs dropped), and a hurricance that cost much more than Sandy. Sandy doesn’t even account for the 86% increase. What did Obama and Congress spend it on? They need to look that First in order to address their fiscal problems.


19 posted on 11/13/2012 10:02:48 PM PST by annajones (Please Act)
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The entitlements that Leon Panetta (Secretary of Defense) is hinting at are military retirement packages and long term medical costs. They’re looking to entirely phase out the old system and put the military on a 401k style plan.


29 posted on 11/14/2012 8:27:38 PM PST by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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