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Foxconn Allegedly Replacing Human Workers With Robots
Techcrunch.com ^ | 11/13/12 | John Biggs

Posted on 11/13/2012 2:47:23 PM PST by Nachum

Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers and it looks like that change, albeit gradual, is about to start.

The company is allegedly paying $25,000 per robot – about three times a worker’s average salary – and they will replace humans in assembly tasks. The plans have been in place for a while – I spoke to Foxconn reps about this a year ago – and it makes perfect sense. Humans are messy, they want more money, and having a half-a-million of them in one factory is a recipe for unrest. But what happens after the halls are clear of careful young men and women and instead full of whirring robots? What happens to China’s “burgeoning” economy?

The original story is short on details but it seems that the robots will work alongside employees and not replace them outright – although some crowding could occur.

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1 posted on 11/13/2012 2:47:29 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Oh well it was bound to happen


2 posted on 11/13/2012 2:48:49 PM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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To: Nachum

Oh well it was bound to happen


3 posted on 11/13/2012 2:48:57 PM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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To: Nachum

Oh well it was bound to happen


4 posted on 11/13/2012 2:49:12 PM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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To: Nachum

They are way behind the times for a technology company.

They did this in the oval office four years ago.


5 posted on 11/13/2012 2:51:33 PM PST by waus (FUBO UFCMF, Just in case I stuttered, FUBO)
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To: KevinDavis

SkyNet any one!


6 posted on 11/13/2012 2:51:33 PM PST by crazydad (-` sd)
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To: Nachum

The substitution of capital for labor... what a classic.


7 posted on 11/13/2012 2:51:40 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Nachum

Wait til they get unionized....


8 posted on 11/13/2012 2:52:03 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: Nachum; Bender2

the unions are already licking their lips. I think we all know who will lead them...


9 posted on 11/13/2012 2:52:38 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: Nachum

Does this unit have a soul?!?!?

10 posted on 11/13/2012 2:53:11 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Nachum

If the robot lasts four years its a good deal.

However a considerable workforce will still be needed to maintain the robots. Having worked with painting robots I personally would choose a good experienced painter any day.


11 posted on 11/13/2012 2:54:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Nachum

I once worked as an HR person for a temp company in a Foxconn plant here in Texas. Only worked 3 days a week yet it was full time! Best paying per hour job I ever had. I’d go back to it in a New York minute.


12 posted on 11/13/2012 2:57:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Nachum

For repetitive work, robots are far superior to humans.

If the materials are consistent, the robots do not make mistakes.

Robots do not take breaks, do not come to work drunk, high or angry after a fight with their spouse. Robots do not doze off, do not daydream, and do not talk to the robot next to them about last night’s Oprah.


13 posted on 11/13/2012 3:00:20 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Nachum
Folks, this has been happening in many industries for decades now. It doesn't damage the economy in the long run, it helps it. A worker replaced by a robot certainly doesn't have much fun, true, but overall, the efficiency gains from factory automation benefit everyone.

Robots are at work on every assembly line and in every factory, and they are a Good Thing.

14 posted on 11/13/2012 3:00:35 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Nachum

Are they sure that somewhere in the 2700 pages of the Obamacare bill there is not the requirement to provide health care for the robots?


15 posted on 11/13/2012 3:01:31 PM PST by NCjim (Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Nachum

If anyone is interesting is seeing the type of assembly robot that’s being used, this is a good example of what the fastest SCARA robots are capable of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5eR0eHknZk


16 posted on 11/13/2012 3:06:04 PM PST by bigbob
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To: NCjim

As soon as the robots are allowed to vote, they will get health insurance.

Health care is something we once had before we had ObamaCare.


17 posted on 11/13/2012 3:07:05 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did they replace you with a robot?


18 posted on 11/13/2012 3:07:31 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: NCjim

>Are they sure that somewhere in the 2700 pages of the Obamacare bill there is not the requirement to provide health care for the robots?

No because robots donf pay taxes. If they did you can be sure Obie would replace the term healthcare with “maintenance contract”...


19 posted on 11/13/2012 3:13:14 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Erik Latranyi

Yes, but will they FReep while at work is the question . . .


20 posted on 11/13/2012 3:13:41 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Nachum
The company is allegedly paying $25,000 per robot – about three times a worker’s average salary – and they will replace humans in assembly tasks.

Robots don't sleep and can work 24/7, so the robot could replace multiple people, and pay for itself in a year or two.

21 posted on 11/13/2012 3:18:52 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: jsanders2001
Right!

Obamacare is like the minimum wage law on steroids as it pertains to replacing jobs with technology.

22 posted on 11/13/2012 3:20:27 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Nachum

Butlerian Jihad.


23 posted on 11/13/2012 3:22:10 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: coconutt2000

Not at all. There were no robots there. My health took a turn for the worse and I couldn’t perform all the functions of that job.


24 posted on 11/13/2012 3:29:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: TChris
"It doesn't damage the economy in the long run"

Using more robots means that the overall cost of production goes down. This means that products can be sold cheaper to humans who are making less in service sector jobs.

If the world's population settles and then starts to go down a little, this might be OK. More and more robots making cheaper products for fewer low paid humans.

If, however, the population continues to increase for a while, then there will be too many unemployed people not making enough money to buy anything.

Going on the dole will be institutionalized around the world, and not just in places like the UK.

25 posted on 11/13/2012 3:45:05 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Nachum

In the meantime, we have the highest corporate tax rates in the developed world, we are going to raise engery prices, and we are trying to raise labor rates with Obamacare.


26 posted on 11/13/2012 3:51:46 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Nachum

Wait, isn’t this a good thing? Foxconn will no longer be exploiting its “slave labor”. The liberated workers can now become unemployed and dependent on government to survive. For liberals, that should be a wet dream come true.


27 posted on 11/13/2012 3:58:41 PM PST by Bob
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
If the world's population settles and then starts to go down a little, this might be OK. More and more robots making cheaper products for fewer low paid humans.

If, however, the population continues to increase for a while, then there will be too many unemployed people not making enough money to buy anything.

Nah.

That certainly hasn't been the case with all the machines put to work since the dawn of the industrial age up until now. They have increased the standard of living across the board! So why would it be any different in the future?

More machines = greater efficiency = lower costs = lower prices = greater wealth (more output from less human work). This is basic capitalism here. It has increased wealth for all, and that rising water has clearly lifted all industrialized ships.

28 posted on 11/13/2012 4:00:06 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Nachum

Can Robots commit suicide? Do Androids dream of electric MP3s?


29 posted on 11/13/2012 4:00:22 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Erik Latranyi

And robots don’t vote Democrat.


30 posted on 11/13/2012 4:00:36 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Nachum
Hey, productivity matters.

I would have been glad to substitute robots for the 27 female humans I was forced to supervise the last time I had a job.

There was always something. On the one day there was not something of some substance, there would be a catfight over bullcrap.

31 posted on 11/13/2012 4:31:39 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

Robots don’t need Obamacare.


32 posted on 11/13/2012 4:38:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Nachum

Can’t wait to see the reaction of the Chinese luddites


33 posted on 11/13/2012 5:15:43 PM PST by Figment
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To: Erik Latranyi

do not come to work drunk,

I’ve seen it too many times, robots do occasionally drink on the job. You will, for some time to come, need human overseers for the robots. They suffer from stress and heat just like humans in a lot of ways


34 posted on 11/13/2012 5:20:36 PM PST by Figment
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To: Erik Latranyi
Add:

Do not require personal time.
Don't need paid vacations.
Do not need health insurance.
Won't get pregnant and...
Won't rob your organization blind.

Impeach the kenyan or secession.


35 posted on 11/13/2012 5:21:43 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: nickcarraway

Can Robots commit suicide?

I don’t know if you can call it suicide, but have seen robots damage themselves beyond what it would be wise to spend repairing them


36 posted on 11/13/2012 5:29:38 PM PST by Figment
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To: KevinDavis
What does Foxconn do/produce?

No, I ain't googling it. Lousy reporting.

37 posted on 11/13/2012 6:17:39 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: publius911

Foxconn makes most of the consumer electronics in the world — mostly in contract to some other company, like Apple


38 posted on 11/13/2012 11:50:57 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: TChris
Folks, this has been happening in many industries for decades now. It doesn't damage the economy in the long run, it helps it. A worker replaced by a robot certainly doesn't have much fun, true, but overall, the efficiency gains from factory automation benefit everyone.
Robots are at work on every assembly line and in every factory, and they are a Good Thing.

All this productivity (efficiency) you worship only result in more Obama voters. It is easy to connect the dots. So be prepared to have your taxes transferred (redistributed) to the armies of the unemployed and their baby mamas. My taxes too so long as Obama and Democrats rule

Progress and automation and computerization and robots cannot be stopped but anyone with a brain can see it is better to have more humans needed to make things and this is what America was like 20-30-40 years ago. In fact I am pretty sure FoxConn wanted to deploy more robots a while ago but was under pressure from Chinese Gov't to keep people employed. Chinese Gov't fears civil unrest from too many idle workers.

39 posted on 11/14/2012 12:35:06 AM PST by dennisw ( “The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything”)
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To: dennisw

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40 posted on 11/14/2012 12:39:42 AM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Nachum
This has been going on for years.


41 posted on 11/14/2012 12:41:04 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Nachum

And don’t call me Shirley.


42 posted on 11/14/2012 12:42:16 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: dfwgator
And robots don’t vote Democrat.

The workers displaced by them do and same for their family. So make a rough guess that for each robot that eliminates 5 workers the Democrats get 15 voters

43 posted on 11/14/2012 12:44:57 AM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw; All

So we should stop progress all in the name of saving jobs then??


44 posted on 11/14/2012 5:00:50 AM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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To: dennisw
All this productivity (efficiency) you worship only result in more Obama voters.

Wow!

That's a pretty huge leap there, FRiend. Care to explain how you get from increased manufacturing automation to "more Obama voters"?

And please drop the self-righteous tone, OK? Worship? Come on...

I'm guessing that you use a "transportation robot" called a car or truck. Your home is probably heated by an automated "heating robot" called a furnace. Do you have an automated "dish cleaning robot"? I do. One for cleaning clothes and another for drying them too!

Unless you're living a caveman lifestyle, everyone uses machines to make their lives easier and more productive.

A mechanic who uses a pneumatic impact wrench instead of cranking on a ratchet is participating in the eeeeeevils of mechanical help. A cashier who uses a computerized cash register instead of a pencil and paper is too.

Using machines to do some of our work for us is not a Bad Thing, whether it's an individual or a company. The principle is exactly the same.

45 posted on 11/14/2012 7:50:32 AM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris

Sorry we are long past that point.

It is time to bring jobs back to the USA.


46 posted on 11/14/2012 7:59:04 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Sorry we are long past that point. It is time to bring jobs back to the USA.

Past what point?

Factory automation is not what sends jobs overseas! Robots aren't what's causing increased unemployment!

Do you believe you are contributing to unemployment because you use a washer and dryer instead of hiring someone to do your family's laundry? According to your reasoning, you should be ashamed of yourself for causing unemployment! You and your family are doing exactly what Foxconn is doing, by automating part of your labor instead of hiring people.

The big problems are coming from false Keynesian "spend your way to prosperity!" economics and entrenched socialist policies worldwide. They're breaking economies with impunity, and George Soros laughs with glee! It's Obama with his callous class warfare and destructive "community organizing". And voters celebrate the man who will happily wipe out the fruits of a life's work.

Don't drink the liberal Kool-aid and believe the propaganda about capitalism -- including factory automation -- being the enemy. It isn't. This is exactly the kind of fear-based thought that brings on unions and all sorts of protectionist actions that smother whole economies.

47 posted on 11/14/2012 10:02:49 AM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris

Can you tell me what happens to the employees who lose jobs due to automation/ computerization/robotics?


48 posted on 11/14/2012 3:21:57 PM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: KevinDavis

Yes! Of course!


49 posted on 11/14/2012 3:23:15 PM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw; All

What will it accomplish in stopping progress??


50 posted on 11/14/2012 3:57:16 PM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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