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Obama's re-election drives gun sales
CNNMoney ^ | November 9, 2012 | Aaron Smith

Posted on 11/13/2012 1:08:28 PM PST by neverdem

Gun sales are up in the wake of Barack Obama's re-election on Tuesday, driven by fears of tighter regulations under a Democratic president, especially for firearms that might be classified as assault weapons.

"Sales are up," said John Kielbasa, owner of Fernwood Firearms in Hankins, N.Y. "I had a guy waiting here first thing in the morning [after the election.] He came in, bought two AK-47s."

Kielbasa said that he sells semiautomatic versions of the fully automatic Kalashnikov rifles, as is permitted by law. He said the demand for semiautomatic rifles is being stoked by memories of the assault weapon ban pioneered by another Democrat, former President Bill Clinton.

That ban, which expired in 2004, didn't eliminate the weapons entirely, but restricted their features, limiting magazine capacity to 10 rounds and regulating pistol grips, bayonet attachments and flash suppressors.

Lawrence Keane, vice president of gun industry group National Shooting Sports Foundation, says that modern sporting rifles -- a term that he prefers to assault weapons -- are "the most popular type of rifles being bought today by Americans." He says they're used by hunters, target shooters, veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan, and citizens who want to protect their property from looters in the wake of recent storms.

Fears that a ban on the weapons might come back under Democratic leadership drove gun enthusiasts to buy firearms when Obama was first elected in 2008. The most reliable way to track the number of gun sales is via background checks, and they spiked after the last election.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation conducted 97,848 firearms background checks on Nov. 28, 2008, according to the National Shooting Sports Foundation. That's the third-highest number of background checks ever recorded in a single day. The FBI conducted 12.7 million background checks during all of...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 11/13/2012 1:08:37 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

John Kielbasa? Cool name of the year, hands down.
Sorry, Weiner.


2 posted on 11/13/2012 1:11:25 PM PST by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: neverdem

Bitter clingers united.


3 posted on 11/13/2012 1:11:33 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: neverdem

if Holder stays on, there will be another 4 years without justice in America


4 posted on 11/13/2012 1:13:31 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: neverdem

Kielbasa? seriously? the guys name is sausage?

Only in America, however, given the source is CNN, does this business really exist?


5 posted on 11/13/2012 1:13:47 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: neverdem
12.7 million background checks during all of 2012

What a beautiful statistic, that must scare the administration sh@tless! More guns sold to citizens in only one year than in the hands of the entire federal government, and that's not even counting the other 235 years the country has been in existence.

6 posted on 11/13/2012 1:19:02 PM PST by apillar
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To: neverdem
Gun sales are up in the wake of Barack Obama’s re-election on Tuesday, driven by fears of tighter regulations under a Democratic president, especially for firearms that might be classified as assault weapons.

But gun ownership is down…………. Right ……. If you believe that – anyone want to buy a bridge?

I imagine that a lot of people are going to sell their guns if they’re likely to be banned – they won’t want to lose money on the deal.

Word has it a friend of a friend sold all of his guns the other day for this reason – it was some guy name Art Vandalay or something for cash with an ad he stuck up on a bulletin board.

7 posted on 11/13/2012 1:30:20 PM PST by chainsaw56 (Do you have the right to defend yourself??)
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To: neverdem

I’ve never owned one. What would be a good starter handgun?


8 posted on 11/13/2012 1:31:26 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: onyx

I intend to purchase at least one more rifle and another handgun. Haven’t made up my mind yet what caliber.


9 posted on 11/13/2012 1:31:59 PM PST by askrenr (HOOAH! It's an Army thing.)
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To: chainsaw56

Of Vandelay Industries?


10 posted on 11/13/2012 1:32:26 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: txnativegop
Kielbasa?

The guy's a total meatball

11 posted on 11/13/2012 1:37:48 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: apillar

Does a background check mean that it is registered that you actually have the gun ?


12 posted on 11/13/2012 1:40:58 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Huskrrrr

Others may have more thoughts, but I just bought my first (besides a shotgun): a Smith and Wesson 38 revolver. Revolvers are simple, don’t jam, and in general are very easy to use. A 38 has plenty of stopping power and it’s 5 round capacity is plenty for most situations.

I have shot it at the range a couple of times and I really like it.


13 posted on 11/13/2012 1:43:32 PM PST by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: Huskrrrr
No perfect answer, but I'm partial to the Ruger .22 auto. Just passed my first one bought for $37 in paper route money down to my stepdaughter. Can't break one or wear it out.
14 posted on 11/13/2012 1:43:48 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: PMAS
Does a background check mean that it is registered that you actually have the gun ?

If it didn't before, you can bet it does now.

15 posted on 11/13/2012 1:46:31 PM PST by Noumenon (As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.)
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To: CrazyIvan

Thanks for your suggestion!


16 posted on 11/13/2012 1:46:51 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: VegasCowboy

Thanks for your suggestion!


17 posted on 11/13/2012 1:47:18 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Noumenon

This is why I have been reluctant to add more


18 posted on 11/13/2012 1:48:28 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: jessduntno

I bought my first weapon today - a Ruger 380.....I asked the clerk if gun sales had gone up since last Tuesday and he replied “you’d better believe it”......


19 posted on 11/13/2012 1:53:54 PM PST by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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To: SJSAMPLE

Yeah…. Guns are only a hobby with him, apparently he sells latex or something..


20 posted on 11/13/2012 2:26:59 PM PST by chainsaw56 (Do you have the right to defend yourself??)
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To: Huskrrrr

Springfield Armory XDM. Not the cheapest, but one of the best. Off to the gun shop with you now!


21 posted on 11/13/2012 2:59:00 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: neverdem

Tic Toc....Tic Toc


22 posted on 11/13/2012 3:06:17 PM PST by JoshuaLawrenceChamberlain
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To: All






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23 posted on 11/13/2012 3:25:32 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texas girl)
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To: Noumenon

Basically it indicates that the purchaser has indicated interest and sought approval...it’s no guarantee that the purchaser has actually gone through with the transaction.


24 posted on 11/13/2012 3:33:02 PM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: PMAS
“Does a background check mean that it is registered that you actually have the gun ?”

As others gave said it just means you expressed an interest in a firearm and the dealer ran a background check to make sure no disqualifiers turned up. It does not mean you completed the transaction. On the other hand if the dealer actually sells you a firearm he has a hard copy DROS/4473 (Dealers Record of Sale) on file. All that means it is the last recorded sale of the firearm. What you do with it after that is your business depending on the state you live in . California for example want all transactions to go through a dealer. I wouldn't get to worried yet. If reports start turning up that the BATFE is starting to review all U.S.dealers books then I would be concerned but that would be such a monumental task as to be almost impracticable.

The choke point would ammunition rather than firearms. Without ammo a firearm will an expensive paperweight.

25 posted on 11/13/2012 4:36:44 PM PST by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: Polynikes

I am thinking of adding and this was my main concern.

I’m in NY, so I’m not sure how the laws are written here.


26 posted on 11/13/2012 5:04:06 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: patriot08

Thanks for the comment & links!


27 posted on 11/13/2012 5:46:30 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

You’re welcome.
I refuse to roll over and accept blatant voter fraud.
I may not be able to do much, but at least I’m trying.


28 posted on 11/13/2012 5:55:20 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texas girl)
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To: patriot08; Longbow1969; All
But pat-08, you're just a conspiracy kook! All the folks in those videos, all those news reports, all the evidence, is ... well, nothing. Face it. Most of your fellow Americans are losers and flakes. GET WITH THE PROGRAM!

Nevermind all the comments at the sites linked, a vast number of which express the same kind of thinking you and I have, that liberalism has cheated to seize power over America.

Longbow and all the rest of the "grown-ups" who poo-poo folks who are rightly and courageously screaming bloody murder about vote fraud as "conspiracy kooks" -- all you "grown up" Republicans, who'll vote for anything with an R on its jersey, you're such good dogs! Good beta dogs, rolling over to the alpha dog, even though you're bigger.

Ridicule is pretty powerful. A lot of "grown-ups" just can't stand the thought of being ridiculed as "conspiracy kooks" by The World, so ... they roll over as election after election is dominated by pretend voters, Americans who don't exist, in order to cede power to government tyranny.

"Grown-up" Americans who hold the majority of their fellow countrymen in contempt for being "children" are losers and asses, every single one of them. They are insulting MY country. They all need a good swift kick in the ass.

29 posted on 11/13/2012 6:08:21 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: neverdem

Sure enough, went nuts and bought 3 new guns today, including a sweet little Colt 6920. Thought I had plenty. But when the grabbers start making their treasonous noises, the urge to buy more becomes irresistible. Plus, you can never have too many.

Sigh... Now I’ll have to drop thousands more on ammo. By the time you’re well stocked, the darn stuff costs more than the guns themselves.


30 posted on 11/13/2012 6:43:51 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: DTogo

Thanks for the suggestion. Hi ho!


31 posted on 11/13/2012 6:45:08 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Finny
Ridicule is pretty powerful. A lot of "grown-ups" just can't stand the thought of being ridiculed as "conspiracy kooks"

/yawn

Sounds like Infowars is the site for you. You'll be surrounded by lots of paultard type conspiracy theorists. There you can rail about the Bilderberg Group, "globalists", gold standards, FEMA camps, etc. Meanwhile, the serious people can get on with trying to right the ship.

32 posted on 11/13/2012 7:11:32 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Polynikes

“If reports start turning up that the BATFE is starting to review all U.S.dealers books then I would be concerned but that would be such a monumental task as to be almost impracticable.”

Also consider that information loses value with age...you may have a 4473 for person X from 1992, but if he moved in 1998...


33 posted on 11/13/2012 7:15:52 PM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: Huskrrrr

“...What would be a good starter handgun?...”

Glock 19, hands down.

Simple to operate, simple to maintain, and always works.

It is the AK47 of the handgun world. Always goes bang. Takes high cap mags that can also be used in the full-size Glock G17.

The new Generation 4 Glocks are amazing.


34 posted on 11/13/2012 7:59:00 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Thanks for the suggestion!


35 posted on 11/13/2012 8:51:35 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Huskrrrr

Happy to oblige.


36 posted on 11/14/2012 8:36:39 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Good advise on the Glock 19.
I had a Gen 3 until it was stolen, so I replaced with with a Gen 4 Glock 23 in .40SW. I figured it can convert it down to 9mm like I did with my Glock 22, but conversion barrels are scarce right now.

Just to clarify;
Glock 19 mags will not fit in the Glock 17.
The longer 17rnd Glock 17 mags WILL fit in the Glock 19.


37 posted on 11/14/2012 12:30:54 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

RE 19 Mags in a 17:

I have 15 rounders for my 19, haven’t tried them in a 17, but I do have two 17 rounders that do work. I assumed the 15ers would fit the larger 17. My bad.

IMHO, it’s the best all around carry gun I’ve had. Started out with a 1911A1 (huge), dropped to a Beretta m85 (puny), then settled on the G19 (perfect).

By the way - I’ve got a G21 too, .45acp. Also a nice piece.


38 posted on 11/14/2012 12:49:38 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

No problem.
The 15rnd G19 mags are just a little too short for the 17.

I love carrying my G23 and still grieve for the loss of my G19. I like that the Gen4 is a little smaller in the hand without any grip additions, but they could have made it smaller still. Haven’t swapped out the sights, yet. My G19 had Trijicons, but now I’m thinking about they hybrid tritium/fiber sights. I forgot how punchy the .40SW is, as I’d been shooting 9mm exclusively for the past 3 years.


39 posted on 11/14/2012 1:23:02 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

Shame about your G19... Did you get the cops involved?

I’m actually thinking of picking up a second G19, since the wife likes shooting mine so much. Also, the Springfield XD9 is pretty nice too. Backstrap is a little easier in the hand. Shoots well, and does the job.

I’ve shot my friend’s Browning Hi-Power in .40 caliber; fun round. I don’t own any 40s though - all 9mm and .45, with a couple .380s


40 posted on 11/15/2012 8:46:28 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Cop showed up an hour later and almost didn’t even get out his car. Sat in his car, took paperwork on make, model, serial number and finally got out of his car after 30 minutes.

They don’t seem to give a shit about property crime.


41 posted on 11/15/2012 10:29:17 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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