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To: Gene Eric

How is the adultery connected to Benghazi other than being peripheral, concurring events?


If you are an ethically challenged libertarian humanist and learn nothing else here at least acknowledge that having the virtue of alley cats has brought down one General and is about to bring down another one.

This is why conservatives assert the reality that sex is not “free” and the character you have in your personal business (good or evil) goes with you into your professional life. There is not really a separation. You bring the same character and virtue to your job that you demonstrate at home unless you are schizophrenic. That is the “logic” missing from libertarian social ideology and why libertarianism is not the founding ideology of the constitution.

Why does virtue matter in all American people who want to be free and successful? Think about half of Americans voting to enslave the other half of Americans to the oppression and poverty of socialism in the last election.

Think about all the physical, mental and social disease (crime like robbery, rape, drug addiction and other violence) that comes out of the public’s lack of virtue in “their private lives” and how that lack of self control and lack of character resulted in their rejection of the personal responsibility of freedom.

The modern culture of raising up attention whore sluts and thug nuts produces society-wide ramifications. The lack of virtue in culture and life wrecks people’s careers, their bodies and their families and they need those EBT cards and free health care and housing to take care of the offspring they produce. Among the a corrupt elite class you get white collar crime and abuse of the constitutional limitations among the self serving posse.

Do you think Wall Street’s lack of virtue “in their private lives” does not result in the dishonesty and scams we have seen in the stock market and banks? How about giving out and taking more debt than you can realistically and honorably recover? How about the “solution” of printing money until the economy crashes? The same goes in the political and government realm, and the country’s social realm.

An elite class (like ours today) that has no virtue needs to corrupt the middle and lower classes so that the corrupt elite are held to no standard of virtue and the elite can lead lives of immediate gratification. That elitist mission to corrupt the public is what the entertainment industry, corporate culture, illiberal education, corrupt religion and atheism and dirty politics accomodates.

Socialism is the system necessary to accomodate people who lack the virtue needed for self control in order for them to be free and independent both economically and socially. The founders knew virtue matters and that is why we used to have religious freedom for Christians and they would teach Western virtue and constitutional freedom to the lower, middle, and upper classes so they could be free and nail corrput elitists.

Marxists undermined America’s culture of virtue because they knew it would lead where it has led - to economic and government Marxism. Libertarians accidently aided in that by incorporating cultural Marxism (aka, humanism) into their poliltical cause of economic freedom. Social conservatives are dismissed as party poopers and haters for resisting the elite’s mission of National social corruption using entertainment, education, business and politics.


210 posted on 11/13/2012 10:03:28 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

>> If you are an ethically challenged libertarian humanist and learn nothing else here ...

Is that relevant if you are a jackass?


232 posted on 11/13/2012 1:11:01 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: SaraJohnson

BTW, skipping to your 2nd paragraph onward, you make great points concerning the consequences of immorality. Not sure about the intent of your 1st paragraph.

My question concerns the direct connection (or impact) and not as much the lesser, indirect effect of the adultery in question. For example, I’m doubtful the attack on the compound took place because Patraeus was having adulterous sex under the desk. If you’re saying otherwise, I’m interested.


237 posted on 11/13/2012 3:07:27 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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