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1 posted on 11/11/2012 3:44:24 PM PST by 7thson
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reaching out= pandering.


33 posted on 11/11/2012 4:18:21 PM PST by driftless2
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The democrats stole the election, so focus on the truth, not the communist propaganda.


37 posted on 11/11/2012 4:21:04 PM PST by stockpirate (Democrrats stole the election via fraud, we will never have a free election again.)
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Tell everyone the truth about what our Constitutional Republic is supposed to look like.

Forget about “reaching out” to groups who identify more with their race/national origin/sex etc than being an American.

The Rs need to be courageous, principled, truthful and mission oriented (and I don’t mean just winning and that’s it). Not corrupt self serving cowards who are actual socialist-lite.

Then they’ll win elections and have a reason to do so.


40 posted on 11/11/2012 4:25:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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We don’t want every hispanic. We want the ones who agree with us. It isn’t enough to win elections if your ideas don’t win.

We are not about ethnicity, we are driven by ideas. Freedom. Limited government. Not everyone understands these ideas and only as their life experience leads them to understand them and want them will you gain their support.

Most people are looking for an earthly king. We already have a King; we are just looking for government to keep the roads paved.


43 posted on 11/11/2012 4:29:17 PM PST by marron
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what is meant by reaching out?

"Reaching Out" means republicans should get in a bidding war with democrats to see who will promise the most free stuff to the "Free Stuff Army".


46 posted on 11/11/2012 4:31:49 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then." -- Philip K. Dick)
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Crap. How about reaching out to more married whites with families and getting 95% of their vote like Obama does for ‘his people’?


48 posted on 11/11/2012 4:33:19 PM PST by expat1000
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In the Dems' system of classification, I fall into the "coveted" single woman group. I am not retarded. I am not lazy. I have a good job and a degree from an excellent private university. I own my own home. I do not need Big Brother's assistance, thank you very much. I find the notion that women need to be taken care of by the government offensive. I do not appreciate the pandering and the attempts to appeal solely to women's reproductive issues. There is a whole lot more to me than that. I am not promiscuous, but if I were, I am certainly capable of rounding up my own birth control. If I couldn't afford it, well, I guess I'd just have to abstain, now wouldn't I? It is possible to do, lol. It's called responsibility. Sandra Fluke should try it.

If I weren't already a Republican, the party could "reach out" to me by talking to my brain and not to my heart...or other bits.

If I were black or Hispanic, I think the words that would appeal to me from the GOP would be about personal responsibility and taking pride in one's self. I am always offended on behalf of the black democrats who don't seem to be bothered by the notion that they need the government to take care of them. They see only the free stuff, but don't seem to recognize the real message of the racist Dems: "We think you are too stupid and lazy to hold down jobs, buy homes within your price range, and generally take care of yourselves. But don't worry, we will take care of you."

I don't understand the lack of pride within the majority of the black community. Black people are capable of so much more than the Democrats give them credit for being. I wish they could see it and see how they are being taken for granted and kept on the plantation. They would rise up and shock the Dems. I would love to have a platform to ask a large group of black voters if they are stupid and lazy, as the Dems seems to think they are.

49 posted on 11/11/2012 4:35:47 PM PST by TXBlair (What the crap is wrong with you, America???)
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Here are some long term strategies ( it is likely too late)

1) Do as the Russians did. Identify minority leaders and offer them fully paid jaunts to conservative youth conferences and summer camps. Good choices would be junior high, high school, and college class presidents, and those with higher that average SAT scores. Provide scholarships to these kids so they can attend PRIVATE and CONSERVATIVE junior and senior high schools and colleges.

2) WORK TO CLOSE DOWN GOVERNMENT K-12 SCHOOLING!!! Get as many kids out of these indoctrination camps as possible! Harvard has an endowment of 34 BILLION dollars and universities across this land have similar endowments. Conservatives should redirect their contributions to providing private vouchers for private ( conservative ) elementary, junior and senipr high schools and colleges.

3) Change the laws so that any child of any age can take the GED or similar private exams. If they pass give issue an official high school diploma from their local government high school. The fewer years spent in a government indoctrination camp the better.

4) Charles Murray is RIGHT! Get as many kids off the college campuses as possible. Move toward privately administer qualifying exams. Very little work done in the U.S. specifically requires a full 4 years on a college campus.

5) Work to make parents feel guilty for using government schools and teachers for agreeing to cooperate with these indoctrination camps. Make they give shamefaced excuses for doing this to children.

6) Develop a free access to an Internet 24/7 streaming “news channel” that is fully conservative and not “balanced”. Glenn Beck has a good idea but I doubt it will work if people have to pay for it.

7) Abandon the brick and mortar delivery of education. Conservatives should give grants to conservative teachers who would open dame schools, one room schools, and homeschool cooperatives. Conservative foundation could certify the teachers, test the students, and provide regional sports, theater, music, and art programs.

8) Personally....I shun all government school indoctrination camp workers. They are either too evil, too stupid, or too much of a Useful Idiot to be my friend. If they were really a true conservative they would have been fired within a few months of being hired.

51 posted on 11/11/2012 4:38:02 PM PST by wintertime
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I don’t understand the reaching out to women thing. I’m a woman, I would rather they stayed out of my life... I thought Mitt Romney was great, was previously a Rick Santorum voter. Ummmmm...IMO women on the right know what they want and want to do it themselves. I like candidates with a real family, gay rights is a danger to my place in society and the economy was a huge issue for me.

Don’t know what the gender gap was. Maybe it was more of an age gap.


54 posted on 11/11/2012 4:46:01 PM PST by madison10 (This kind come out only with fasting and prayer ~~ Jesus)
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I can tell you as a woman and an American of Cuban descent, I don’t want anybody to reach out to me and my family. I want government OUT OF MY WAY. I am a conservative republican as is my extended family and I mean all of us. We all voted for Romney/Ryan and are devastated that Obama won.

We want the borders closed. We want all illegals in this country sent back. We want lower taxes, limited government and for this country to be led by our Constitutional principles. Liberalism will be the death of America.

The republican party CANNOT bend over and start compromising our platform and principles for anybody. Not for blacks, not for atheists, not for homosexuals, not for Planned Parenthood and certainly not for hispanics. We MUST stand on principle or we will fall.


56 posted on 11/11/2012 4:49:40 PM PST by rep-always
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As a woman, I say quit pandering to groups that are never...NEVER...going to vote for you! You keep nominating these pro-amnesty, mushy candidates and where does it get you? The libs and the media scream and holler that your candidate is a horrible, evil, conservative racist Nazi, etc., etc., and you end up losing. Well, since the media and libs are going to scream and name-call and have fits, anyway, why not give them something to REALLY scream about? Why not try being a real alternative to the Dems for once? Openly, and without apology, come out in favor of ending illegal immigration, deporting illegals, punishing the employers, and ending the anchor babies. If you don’t, you will lose, anyway, and it will be the end of this country. Yes, the media and the libs will be in hysterics, but working class Americans who have been suffering and staying home will be fired up and will crawl over broken glass to vote for you. Quit cowering in fear over being called racist.

As for the women’s vote, I resent being condescended to and treated like I only care about abortion and birth control and “voting with my lady parts.” I want a REAL conservative party and have not had that to vote for.

But...that’s me.


60 posted on 11/11/2012 5:02:06 PM PST by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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I’m female. I like my man to act like a man. Congressional Republicans are pussies. They want to shore up the female vote? They can start acting like men and standing up for conservative values. Telling obama to go to hell along with his policies would be great; however, the GOPe should have informed the public a long time ago about what obama’s policies actually lead to. Again, they were pussies.


61 posted on 11/11/2012 5:05:25 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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Sign the petition for a recount:

http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/

Visit this site. They are keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/






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VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April:

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We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....

We are FReepers. We must fight!

Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!




63 posted on 11/11/2012 5:07:11 PM PST by patriot08
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“What precisously does the Republican Party need to say to these groups in order to get their votes?”

I do not think the Republican Party go tribal? Because that is what the Democrat Party has done for years.Legislate on behalf of the tribes you want to bond together to create a permanent political majority for yourself without regard to the other 49% of the nation or the long term viability of the nation.


65 posted on 11/11/2012 5:16:22 PM PST by chuckee
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I am not going to speak for my conservative black friends, but as a woman I’ll tell you that Romney was right: there is a very large percentage of the population that will never, ever be persuaded that voting Republican is in their best interests.

There are many women I know who vote D reflexively because, honestly, they are thinking with their sex organs. They’re terrified that they’re going to get knocked up and they won’t be able to have an abortion. They’re afraid that they might have to curtail or take responsibility for sexual promiscuity. To some of these people, horniness is a fate worse than death and having to keep their panties pulled up because abortion isn’t available cheaply—preferably on someone else’s dime—is intolerable.

Some of them are also acting out of repressed guilt: they’ve had abortions, and it makes them angry to hear others call this murder. If they can get all the rest of us to shut up and stop saying that abortion is murder, abortion is cutting an innocent baby into pieces, then it’s okay. If they get the rest of us to actually pay for their abortions, they have society’s imprimatur on their actions. They think they won’t have to feel guilty anymore. But they’re wrong about that.

Neither Romney, Rubio, Ryan, nor any other Republican candidate can appeal to this rather large segment of the population. Only the Holy Spirit can change their hearts.

(And lest I sound too harsh, I think a great many of these women are behaving this way because they are deeply, deeply lonely and they go to bed with a man in hopes he’ll fall in love with them and marry them. This is what they’ve been told since girlhood. Some of them are driven to screw around not by horniness but by sadness. We have let the liberals create a tragic society full of broken homes and broken hearts.)


67 posted on 11/11/2012 5:34:11 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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This post is written in anger and frustration.

Angry that we continue to follow the Republican Party’s elite ignorance. A party that continues to pull defeat from the jaws of victory characterized by pompous fools who fulfill the sterotype built by the left.

Frustrated that the reality of politics is this: There will be no third party capable of competing with the coalition constructed by the dems. As a result, true conservatives MUST take steps to irradicate the ignorance of the Republican Party while still adhering to the core values of our forefathers (beliefs that I discovered are considered extreme by over half of my countrymen on Tuesday night, BTW).

I have no solve for exactly how to accomplish this. Only advice based on a long military career in several foreign lands for how to defeat the dems once this is accomplished.

This thought process is based on the concept of irregular warfare with twists thrown in here and there for good measure.

With that, I provide the following advice for the good of the order.

LEADERSHIP: The old crew has proven either incompotent or outdated. McConnell and Boerner must go. They represent a failed plan to defend and resist without clearly explaining their position. They are content with looking like the bad guys and face public scorn when they don’t realize how important it is to manipulate a clearly left leaning MSM. They represent the failure of the last four years to our own and obstructionists to the opposition. We’ve got to show a new face to the nation. That is the genesis of rebuilding this movement. Ryan or Cantor in the House, Rubio or Demint in the Senate.

We also need a standard bearer and I see no one on the horizon with as much rockstar potential and substance as Rubio. These next four years must put him on the center stage with a unified and consolidated message. It also needs to protect him from the attacks from the left that are guaranteed to come.

Everything the Obamites used to deny, deflect, and difuse will be used againstt hem....including the race card. THAT is what will make Rubio a teflon candidate.

These men represent a change in a party that has been beaten soundly in the last two elections by a charlatan and his traveling circus. A fresh choice in leadership represents change you can TRULY beleive in from every angle. It marks a clear start from inside and outside when we actually started taking this enemy seriously.

GROUND GAME: It is IMPERATIVE to develop and foster an intricate ground game. It requires a MICRO-ANALYSIS of every county, every city, and every early and absentee ballot by demographic to find how how, why, and with what method they voted. The dems have built quite the coalition but it’s a house of cards; it’s a fractured coalition of single issue voters held together by a media-invested hollyweird worshipping demagogue. They can be piecemealed away bitby bit without sacrficing principle.

Give it to the dems on their “community organizing” machine. We don’t need to reinvent that model. We MUST develop our own. One that will INSTILL our principles in a language tailored to the audience. They’ve tailored theirs on the community organizer, we can create ours around the military special operator. This the winning of hearts and minds in our own third world backyard dem strongholds.

This isn’t as difficult as it sounds. It requires a patient and immediate effort that starts with the post election analysis looking not for what we WANT to find, but for the GROUND TRUTH. GROUND TRUTH is REAL INTELLIGENCE not Rovian number-crunching wishful thinking.

It will require an insurgent effort at the ground level. An infiltration into dem areas that we identify are weak or vulnerable to start cutting in to the blue.

The COIN (insurgeny/counterinsurgency)effort would include the identification of these areas, the inflitration of the areas through churches and charitable organizations AND PARTICULARLY THROUGH EDUCATION.

There ARE like thinkers in these communities. How do we find them? Ask Jesse L. Peterson. Ask JC Watts and Herman Cain. They KNOW how to splinter these vulnerable areas off the blue.

The hispanic issue is RIPE for moving into the red. Catholic, family oriented cultures who beleive in being left alone and naturally distrust the government. And they voted Obama? This is the epitome of the single issue voter. the RNC needs to go toe to toe, issue to issue with “the Race” and counter it in that community, in that language, at THAT LEVEL.

Think it can’t be done? SOF has been doing it since the end of World War II. It CAN be done.

WE must get deep into the education system to promote the ideals and values of conservatism that should be selling themselves. I’m not talking about traditional public schools and universities. They are ROTTED with liberals. They also aren’tthe keys to education in the 21st century.

I’m talking about the new way to educate - the online universities, the trade schools and nightschools. Corporate allies need to invest and educate with the ideals of economic and fiscal conservatism.

The RNC needs to lead and develop this effort. A novice like me can see that there is a disconnect between the voting habits of catholic-dominated hispanics and pockets of baptist blacks and their actual stated values. That disconnect can be exploited if it is done slowly, deliberately, and effectively.

INFORMATION WARFARE: We are ATROCIOUS AT THIS. Dems get a simple message out early and often. They poison the well and we are left to change minds rather than get the initial impression right from jump. We constantly play defense and think we are sooooo clever when dems (as they ALWAYS do) do something stupid or illegal and shocked when the media all but ignores it. We must take the offensive in getting up in every Candy Crowley, every George Stepenopolis’ face and call them what they are: democratic hacks posing as the “objective media”

We ABSOLUTELY MUST be proactive. We must attack at EVERY OPPORTUNITY then add each fail of the dems to a trend and theme. These themes must be simple, tailored, and repetitively broadcast to each target demographic.

We must look out beyond the 5 and 10 meter targets. We’ve got to effectively interpret what the dem message is on the horizon and confront it at all levels - from the national MSM level filtering directly down to the target group level. Even I can see what the talking points of the upcoming week are by watching the Sunday talking head programs. Defense is unacceptable. we can’t pretent that the most outrageous comment won’t gain traction then act surprised when weeks later, that theme picks up steam. Attack, attack, attack.

Alinsky tactics must be turned against their masters. There is GREAT power in ridicule and scorn. They make it too easy to use. It needs to be culturally tailored and consistent. Dennis Miller needs his own show on FNC AND a late night show on Fox. Let him source and promote culturally diverse conserative comedians that vulnerable areas can relate to and remember. Bold Fresh tours aren’t enough.

This is only part of an overall information operation plan that is constant in a simple party message and what it means to each target group.

WE DON’T DO THAT WELL. WHY NOT? I find it unbelievable that Obama has hijacked the reputation and imagery of the Party of Lincoln.

COIN operations involve a very in depth understanding of cultural idocyncracies and how best to exploit them to our advantage. It’s not a “wool-over-the-eyes” approach or a “free shit” approach like the dems sell. THAT ALWAYS COMES UP SHORT.

It’s a sell based on how it effects each target group and what it means to them. If it’s done right, I am CONFIDENT that the tenets of conservatism sell themselves.

In Civil Miltary Operations, assistance in areas that seem unrelated builds trust in the agency. Granted, there’s a fine line between assistance and the giving of free shit but, the special operations forces walk that line well. It can be done. Community outreach in areas that we identify, in ways that we haven’t before can build a larger tent without sacrificing our beliefs.

The military has been doing this in third world countries for years. We’ve been more successful in some areas, less successful in others. In the United States third world strongholds of the Democratic Party,I am confident that it can be done.

Here’s the kicker: There are countless retired special operations planners and operators working overseas as contractors RIGHT NOW. It’s too easy; the RNC needs to hire them as contractors over here.

This is, by far, not the only avenue we’ve got to pursue in order to turn the tide.

But, if we are going to war, the RNC must look to the military to rediscover and reorganize. The number-crunching beancounters have their place in the organization but, on their best days, they can only identify who will and won’t vote Republican.

This is a “Hearts and Minds” effort.

It requires a new way to think about the political battlefield.

Rangers Lead the Way.



70 posted on 11/11/2012 6:50:28 PM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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Democrat voters want abortion, amnesty, and freebies. Sorry, not my idea of America.


73 posted on 11/11/2012 7:09:35 PM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To me, it means we need to have a focus on nothing but our fiscal mess and our foreign policies mess or we will not have a country very soon!!!


75 posted on 11/11/2012 7:47:48 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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What is needed is for the Republicans to simply join the Democrats in one huge, monolithic party. Call it the new Republocrat Party—a tent big enough to hold everybody. No more money wasted on elections since we’re just one big happy family; with one great Dear Leader who is half white and half black. It could’t get any better!


76 posted on 11/11/2012 7:48:34 PM PST by pankot
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“Reaching out” is just a term for “pander” Most of us know why it wouldn’t do any good to “reach out” to women who won’t vote for anything but democrats, welfare checks, abortions and free abortion pills. Then there are the old, retired women like me - many of them, like my sister, accept anything the talking heads on their TV tell them to, in spite of having been raised and educated to know better - that’s the “dumb as a box of rocks” category. I am so disgusted with my own sex, I don’t see how any pandering can overcome the Rat lies and change the so-called minds of any more of them.

And reaching out to youth?? Don’t get me started. Those spoiled, brainless, clueless children have no business voting in the first place, unless they are military, in which case they are not spoiled, etc. We need to “reach” youth by repealing whatever amendment that was (I’m too old to remember and too angry to look it up) that allowed high school children to vote. What can mature adults possibly offer these brats that they haven’t had since birth??

Them’s my only two areas of opinion; I have no idea about blacks (except Are You Kidding?? They got what they wanted) or Latinos - except the few I’ve known were decent, religious Americans, not invaders. Somebody is talking to us about pandering to invaders. Why?


80 posted on 11/11/2012 9:19:27 PM PST by CatDancer (Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty. 2 Cor.3:17)
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