You live in a fantasy(pre-2012 reality check). This is not 1980 and that wasn't even true in 2004 and this country is far gone since then with two Obama elections.
If this country was so conservative you wouldn't have been on this thread defending Bohner tonight as he wouldn't feel it necessary to surrender to O on immigration.
“You live in a fantasy(pre-2012 reality check). This is not 1980 and that wasn’t even true in 2004 and this country is far gone since then with two Obama elections.
If this country was so conservative you wouldn’t have been on this thread defending Bohner tonight as he wouldn’t feel it necessary to surrender to O on immigration.”
I don’t think so.... as said before we didn’t lose on ideas we lost on a technicality - Obama appealed to more of the population. Why / how he appealed is the question. His performance as a leader sux by all measures. So was it free phones, free money (food stamps, welfare, etc), was because he did countless TV shows and parties with celebs, and interviews with media rags. How many of the people voting actually knew who Romney was ? Romney / Ryan probably would won easy if Ryan did the crap Obama did (IMO).
The country has to deal with immigration - both parties have been terrible at for over 30 years. All the current ideas all seem to lacking. Bottom line for me is that they shouldn’t be citizens period without standard processing. Non citizens shouldn’t get any free education, or government services, or jobs - unless they have green cards. As far as them being here walking around and spending money ????
Bad part - we are talking some kind of government IDs for everyone, and alot of folks hate that.
I’m not defending Boehner as much as trying to focus on fixing the rhetoric. There are good ideas and methods out here we need to find and rally around them.