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1 posted on 11/10/2012 7:22:25 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Three thing to consider:

Without the Presidency no chance of removing.
Without the Senate, same no chance.
Without a Civil War, same no chance.


2 posted on 11/10/2012 7:25:15 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Kaslin

The whole purpose of this law is to pound a once free people into communism.
The corrupt will now have the power of life and death over us.

I’ll say one thing for BHO - he is relentless, evil and unafraid. Look what he has done to us.


3 posted on 11/10/2012 7:33:05 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Kaslin

ObamaCare is designed to collapse the system. Once that occurs, the clamor for single-payer will be deafening. Then the left will oblige as their job will be done.


9 posted on 11/10/2012 7:48:58 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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30 US states with republican governors now. Each state governor and state house has to answer to their own constituents. When the states are forced to start asking to raise taxes to pay for the costs of obamacare, the shyte is going to hit the fan.


12 posted on 11/10/2012 7:57:58 AM PST by mtrott
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I have followed Goodman for a long time...he is a brilliant health policy wonk. He was the one who championed Health Savings Accounts back in the ‘90s, but very few listened. He was right then, and likely right about most of what is in here now. Just awful...in so many ways as those above have stated.


13 posted on 11/10/2012 8:07:21 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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Once an entitlement is law, the Republicans are blamed for not providing necessary funding. The Pubbies cave. End of story. Time to hunker down. We are srewed.


14 posted on 11/10/2012 8:12:19 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Kaslin

Once an entitlement is law, the Republicans are blamed for not providing necessary funding. The Pubbies cave. End of story. Time to hunker down. We are screwed.


15 posted on 11/10/2012 8:12:27 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Kaslin
ObamaCare is not paid for.

This is the Achilles heel. If the cajoneless kongress refuses to appropriate the money this monstrosity will and should wither on the vine.

16 posted on 11/10/2012 8:16:27 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin

No, this does not have to mean Obamacare stays. It will be harder to fight but we must fight on. The fact that politicians like Boehner can use this election to ignore the real mandate on Obamacare is hurting us.

Boehner has to go, him and anyone else who defends this death knell to the greatest healthcare system in the world. We can keep fighting, the House can refuse to fund, the people can still be heard. As Rick Santorum said, “Don’t give this issue away, folks. It’s too important!”


19 posted on 11/10/2012 8:19:38 AM PST by Kenny (<p)
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But if the current crop of politicians is afraid to admit that they have taken something away from senior voters, what do you think future politicians are going to do when real pain starts setting in? The betting in Washington is that the cuts will be restored. That will mean that ObamaCare will hugely add to deficit spending, indefinitely into the future.

This is the most important two sentences in the article. We have created another huge entitlement system that will bankrupt our country along with Medicare, SS, and Medicaid. The politicians will respond to public pressure and not make the prescribed cuts in much the same way they enact the "Doc fix" every year to Medicare. Eventually, as intended by Obama, we will be forced to go to a single payer system. Obamacare was always intended to be an interim step.

21 posted on 11/10/2012 9:00:59 AM PST by kabar
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There is still one way to get rid of Obamacare, as soon as the first person is taxed for it. That person will then have standing to challenge the law, on the basis that tax bills must come from the House, and the Obamacare bill was gutted in the Senate and filled with Harry Reid’s text.

This ruling about standing was made in Florida, purposely by the Justice Department, to keep anyone from challenging Obamacare on that basis until 2014, when the first penalty/tax will be paid.

Roberts’s vote not as cuckoo as it sounded. He stopped the Commerce Clause from becoming a catchall and established the Obamacare penalty as a tax.


22 posted on 11/10/2012 9:01:43 AM PST by firebrand
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Implementing Obamacare is the best outcome now. Liberals would have never accepted that it wouldn’t work if it got overturned. Now they will see the proof as it falls apart, doctors and other medical people rebel, the lines get long and the costs skyrocket.

People learn most lessons the hard way. Prepare for the hard way in a lot of areas, including Obamacare.


23 posted on 11/10/2012 9:02:02 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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All this is true, but misses the point - The PPACA (Obamacare) is not SUPPOSED to “work”. As I posted here at the time of its passage, it is a purely Leninist work of destruction.

These six things barely scratch the surface of what’s “wrong” with it. It doesn’t even discuss the IPAB, which (supposedly) prevents future Congresses from legislating (you know, the Congress which possesses “all legislative powers herein granted?).

Long before the PPACA actually has to “work”, the system will be in ruins and the people will be begging for what the PPACA was ACTUALLY designed to deliver - full seizure of all healthcare related businesses and the final smashing of the Class Enemy.


24 posted on 11/10/2012 9:06:43 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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Looking for a positive in Obama retaining power is like looking for a positive in hurricane Sandy destroying your neighborhood. One of the few positives is that it may make ObamaCare easier to repeal. I don’t believe that Romney would actually have repealed ObamaCare. Four (eight???) years of ObamaCare under a “Republican” president would have made that unconstitutional law far harder to repeal. Assuming that a real conservative takes the White House in four years, with the expected weak economic growth due to liberal government and ObamaCare, repeal will be much more manageable than in a post-Romney world. Considering the destruction we face over the next four years, that is not a positive vision, but it is better than the destruction plus keeping ObamaCare.


25 posted on 11/10/2012 9:07:46 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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The biggest problem is that the Health Care Exchanges cannot possibly be up and running by 2014 let alone be ready to enroll people and pay providers. Many states will balk at creating the exchanges so the burden will be wholly on the federal government. Imagine the chaos in 2014 when millions of people lose their employer sponsored plans, cannot possibly afford private plans, make too much to qualify for Medicaid and the much touted Exchanges do not yet exist. Not only will these people not have any health insurance they will be fined for their predicament. If that doesn’t bring mobs with torches and pitchforks to Washington I don’t know what will.


27 posted on 11/10/2012 9:21:11 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Kaslin

I need to change my signature now that Obamacare will never be repealed and America’s fate is sealed.


30 posted on 11/10/2012 9:30:54 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Kaslin

I need to change my signature now that Obamacare will never be repealed and America’s fate is sealed.


31 posted on 11/10/2012 9:31:41 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Kaslin
Obamacare was not passed to provide health care for everyone. It was passed to skim more money out of the health industry for government. All their effort now has to be on keeping the titanic afloat. So what is not paid for, will never come to pass, and what is paid for, may have its funding skimmed.

Obamacare is not the law of the land. The bill had to be passed before it could be read. Therefore, it is not proper law no matter what the MSM and Progresso's say.

34 posted on 11/10/2012 9:45:26 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Kaslin

NO!


39 posted on 11/10/2012 11:24:56 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Did the Election Save ObamaCare?
Yes at a cost of a few million more jobs lost.


40 posted on 11/10/2012 11:30:36 AM PST by Vaduz
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