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To: Clint N. Suhks

Guys,

We simply have to get this issue behind us. The good news is we’re in a good position for getting a guest worker program, e-identification, updates social security cards, penalties for emplyers...things of that nature...if we frame it the right way. The right way is: You give us what we want and we’ll give you Amnesty as long as the illegal folks here pay some sort of fine.

I know it bites the big-one but, this issue has to to be dissapeared before the next presidential election.

Another way this can be sold to the public is to claim that a real guest worker program will stop the exploitation of hispanic labor who mostly get paid under the table. That’s a winning argument!!!

If Marco Rubio takes the lead, we can turn this thing around into a plus for our side but, we absolutely can’t be labeled as the party that ‘wants to deport grandma.’


21 posted on 11/10/2012 7:15:57 AM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Mustangman

We have too many US Citizens that can fill any unskilled labor jobs if their wages were higher than unemployment, food stamps and welfare. Amnesty has already been tried and look what happened! More illegals were attracted since Reagan tried it! I don’t give a damm if a head of lettuce costs $5, it’s what it’s worth if there’s a demand for it.

You may want to throw your fellow citizens under the bus to win an election but most conservatives won’t compromise their common sense principals.


24 posted on 11/10/2012 7:34:47 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (St.Peter:"Upon this rock, I will build my church" 0:"If you've got a church, you didn't build that!")
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To: Mustangman

If you want to roll over for the Democrats and the illegals, if you want to fire the bullet that finally kills the country, go ahead and do it. But you will do it without my help.

And I am sick of the Marco Rubio worship. He’s a Cuban, as lily-white as I am. Do you really think dark-skinned Mexicans are going to hop on his bus? If you do, you’re deluding yourself.

Read Heather McDonald. Amnesty will never get Republicans the Hispanic vote. They want freebies, and the Dems are willing to give them. Though, I don’t know, maybe you’re willing to compromise there, too.


30 posted on 11/10/2012 8:20:14 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Mustangman
We've covered all the arguments for and against "reform" in miles and miles of FR threads.. heated arguments and if I recall some FReepers left and some were kicked off FR.

In fact IIRC just days before 9/11/2001 Bush and Mexican president Fox were working out a deal to open the flood gates -- that were already in fragments -- and let a gazillion come and go as pleased the Mexican government and U.S. businesses looking for cheap, tax-payer subsidized labor.

I attempted to explain my recollection of some of those miles of threads in my last reply immediately above.

32 posted on 11/10/2012 8:25:00 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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