Posted on 11/10/2012 5:13:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
“the Left’s embrace of illegal immigration.”
Sure it does, but so does the “business community” and the Wall Street Journal. It’s all good, they say. Those people wading across the Rio are nuclear physicists as well as grass cutters, all contributing to our booming economy.
And it’s bi-partisan. The Elder Bush invented NAFTA, and it was Bubba who pushed it through Congress.
This aspect of the ‘blame game’ is total BS...it is the fault of this group; it is the fault of that group.
Here is who is at fault...the GOP nominates a candidate who was being rejected by 65-70% of Republican voters all the way thru the primary process. They leave their primaries ‘open’ to Democrat shenanigans. Then they are SHOCKED when a good portion of the 65%’ers don’t show up on Election Day. That ‘where else are they going to go?’ mandate didn’t sell. They stayed home. Blacks obey their plantation owners on Election Day...enough of the 65%’ers threw off their chains to keep Romney from winning. It’s as simple as that.
Maybe because the Cuban vote is no longer what you think it is.
We live in a very Cuban part of Miami (Little Havana). We can see the generation shifts pretty easily. The Cubans who came here after Castro took power are very conservative, but very old, and dying out. (Some may finally be hoping they can go home and visit the country in which they were born as well.) I suspect the support for Rubio has to do with the fact that he is Cuban more than any important politics.
They are also very oriented to the “old country” and language. (My neighbor across the street learned English because he had to for work, but his wife still does not speak English and does not drive a car (that is the husband’s job).)
Their children are quite different. They are quite a bit more liberal (remember, they have grown up in our public school system, not Cuba’s), including their Catholic religion (several are divorced, and I am pretty sure one has had an abortion).
They also put a pretty high value on education, and they have a lot of kids of their own. A number of my neighbors’ kids have become teachers. Our neighborhood still had about 10x more Romney signs than Obama signs (which of course raises the other issue of vote fraud, given the fiasco we had here), but I was surprised at the number of Obama signs I saw. Guess which houses had them? The houses where I knew at least one of their children was a teacher, or other public school employee.
Which brings us right back to the issue of voter turnout (or lack thereof).
My impression is that the Cubans who had the Obama signs out on their lawns were much more motivated to actually go and vote than were the Romney supporters who only sensed a vague connection with the candidate.
Bottom line, Mitt may have beaten McCain and tied Bush 43 which raises other questions, doesn't it ?
“This is a basic, basic lesson. You do not vilify the most passionate, and dedicated supporters in order to fish for wishy washy moderates.
You will lose every time.”
The numbers don’t support your assertion.
Without a coalition of conservatives and moderates, you will lose every time.
There are not enough true conservatives to win national elections.
Because of the changing demographics of the electorate, if conservatives don’t accept a candidate that falls short of their ideal, the democrats will outnumber republican votes by ever-widening margins.
The GOP-e won’t let this happen. Conservatives will be left behind and the party will be forced to look for a broader coalition that includes moderate independents and moderate Latinos, and conservatives will lose their remaining seats at the table.
I don’t particularly like this, but I think that’s what will happen.
There is another one coming up in 2014 and 2016. I will remember what you are saying now.
Do YOU understand that?
/johnny
All good points. Where I disagree is with Rubio getting the Palin treatment. Florida is not Wasilla. Rubio does not take any votes away from Romney. Ryan was a safe pick. Safe doesn’t win elections.
I don’t think Alinsky could have made it any more clear. The lefts biggest fear is ridicule. That’s all we had to go with. Nothing else would have worked.
McCarthy is 100% correct about this. What's pathetic is that those "many people" are being vindicated every time the bloated Federal big gets even more massive under REPUBLICAN oversight.
Romney had more than enough votes to win. The difference was in the outright fraud perpetrated by the 'Rats.
Perhaps it was a combination of the two. But our system of electing candidates is broken. It is corrupted and needs to be fixed. The fix is simple. Voter photo ID and no early voting. Period.
“Those who oppose him will just be frauded out”.
Agree. The sanctity of the vote has been permanently destroyed by democrat corruption.
Enjoy the next 4 years. You’ve earned them.
I agree with you. I still believe this election was stolen. It would be nice to not have to blame boneheads for handing Ocrap the election.
The votes are not all counted yet. So maybe we all should wait for that.
If you watched that video earlier from some years back, that guy was saying you can program a 50%/48% election right into a machine and the poll inspectors would never see it.
Tells me all need to know. In that case, turnout does not matter.
Be prepared to hear all about lots of “voters staying home”...the Bipartisan Oligarchy would rather we all stew in that mess..than having us all bothered, and deciding to investigate, about all the voters voting who never voted...
Listening to descriptions of how “Democrats got out their ground game” with “superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go” by the commentators on Fox election night..made me realize..what they actually have done is track names that HAVE NOT VOTED IN MANY, MANY elections cycles....and vote them.
A well-funded project, county-by-county..to examine the names signed in at at the polls..and going out to find those individuals..you’ll find they were never physically at he polls..or they themselves never filled out the absentee ballot....or their names in the death registers.
The very LAST thing the Bipartisan Oligarchy want or need is any semblance of Constitutional Federal Gov’mt or a clean vote.
Both those are up to We the People to cram it down their throats so hard in DC they will, someday, never do otherwise.
Not difficult to understand at all.
A minority of people are immature purists who can't put up a good candidate of their own so pout and throw tantrums.
Very transparent easy to see. There will always be the immature among us.
There’s a good chance that folks who stayed home went a “bridge too far” this time.
From here on out it’s a miracle if national elections are any different than a local Chicago election in which case they can all work their hearts out for a candidate and even each one vote twice but it won’t make a difference.
The fact is they’re playing Russian Roulette with their future and the future of the children but have convinced themselves they're standing on the moral high ground.
JMHO
You continue to prove my point. These are not “my” candidates by any means.
This is not about someone kissing your ass and wooing you to do the right thing. If you are not man enough and smart enough to do that, then you are just as much a part of the problem as the obama stash obama phone woman.
Your perverted shallow analysis that this is a sales game and somehow I benefit from your vote - is just pathetic and infantile. The country will be devastated by another four years of Obama and every single person who did not try to stop that is partially culpable.
If you sat around waiting for the “right” candidate to strike your fancy or for the right person to kiss your sorry ass in the right place, then you are an abomination.
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