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The Voters Who Stayed Home (The Key to Understanding the Results of the 2012 Elections)
National Review ^ | 11/10/2012 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 11/10/2012 5:13:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Hugh the Scot; carton253

If you guys need a lunch to help you in your endeavors... ping me.

I’m just a cook. It’s what I do.

/johnny


261 posted on 11/10/2012 12:37:25 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Darren McCarty
It's a long term process and it takes work and time in more than just election year.

Every year it's the same old tired worn out story! It's like the dems playing the wealthy/rich = republican = bad card.

The GOPe/republican party and their cohorts can go FT!

262 posted on 11/10/2012 12:49:43 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Romney was a horrible candidate. He's just creepy, totally phony and only GOP Kool-Aid drinkers pretend otherwise. I'll bet 25% of Freepers kept their vow to never vote for him.

The GOP establishment went through this in ‘96. They couldn't admit that they rammed a doddering, old clown onto the ticket. Instead, we were told that Clinton was invincible!

263 posted on 11/10/2012 12:52:43 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (The GOP Establishment has decreed Graham/Lieberman 2016. And you can't do anything about it!)
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To: sirchtruth
And every year I see the same thing with keyboard warriors complaining in election years and doing nothing in other years setting the stage for the same thing every year.

Show up and fix the problem, or stop bitching.

264 posted on 11/10/2012 1:02:31 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: EternalVigilance
The margin is completely irrelevant in the end.

No, the margin actually does matter. Every additional vote Romney got cuts in how much of a mandate Obama can claim.

Romney was at least competitive losing by only around 2.5%. Considering how effective Obama's turnout machine was and how awful Mitt's turned out to be, it is pretty clear that the battleground states are pretty close and there is always as much support for Romney's agenda as there was Obama's.

You on the other hand accomplished nothing other than to further prove the irrelevancy of 3rd party's (aside from potentially being a spoiler occasionally). You were a complete nonfactor as I and others correctly told you you'd be. Not one bit of good was accomplished with that vanity run and you should man up, admit as much and use your energies to push the GOP in a better direction going forward. We need intelligent, politically active people like you - and it is extremely sad to see you dedicate your energies to 3rd party timewasters.

265 posted on 11/10/2012 1:17:15 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Timber Rattler

Oh, I remember it well, and am convinced to this day that Palin brought MILLIONS of votes to McCain that he otherwise wouldn’t have gotten.To anyone with any common sense, there is no reason to believe she wouldn’t have done the same thing for Romney,were it not for the overwhelming influence of those “official” RNC ers you named. It’s only commonsensical
to assume that would’ve happened, but once the R Establishment made her radioactive,(an exercise of cynicism even worse than what the Left did to her) they certainly weren’t going to do anything to promote her ascendancy post-Election 2008. Look, I was in the Tea Party virtually from the get-go and saw the once-in-a-lifetime excitement collect around Sarah and I was profoundly sppalled by the way she was treated by the Dems the Pubs, and the MSM—it was that first speech that did it—incredibly “nervy” and self-confident-—like something we’d never really seen before.
The coward McCain allowed her, but only for a little while, to play the Anti-Obama, a role which HE should’ve played.
Once “her own party” disowned her I knew her immediate destiny would be to promote and attract support for selected Tea Party candidates in the mid-term. What I DIDN’T expect was the Republicsn Establishment not to have learned any lessons from 2008 and 2010, but it’s now clear that they didn’t.Even before Romney became the offical nominee this time around, I said here on FR that Romney becoming the nominee would result in more chaos in the Tea Party than the election of Obama in 2008. I was wrong again. The Tea Party in Congress proved to be a bit of a mixed bag, but eventually all of them, like most of us on FR, had to line up behind Romney, and keep our fingers crossed..,,..It was definitely trending here on FR, that Gingrich should’ve been the nominee, if for no other reason than that he would destroy Obama in the debates—he would’ve, even though Romney got a good start in the first one. NOW, however, it is clear that the chaos I predicted pre-election, shows up post-election, in the unimaginable Romney loss.


266 posted on 11/10/2012 1:52:44 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Darren McCarty
Show up and fix the problem, or stop bitching.

Well, here's where I fix "The Problem."

*I Have unregistered as a republican.
*I will convince my fellow conservatives to form a new party.
*I will go door to door to convince people NOT to vote dem or republican.
*I will cause as much consternation as I possibly can to get in the face of dem/GOPe
*Every chance I get I will tell the republican party/GOPe/RNC to GFT!

Every politician who wants to run has to prove they are conservative by following a set standard of by laws.

I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned the GOPe/dems are equal enemies. I don't care if rino/moderates want to join the NEW party they will just have to always take a backseat to the conservatives. They will have NO say so in policy or platform.

There's my "problem" fix.

267 posted on 11/10/2012 1:52:49 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: sirchtruth

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268 posted on 11/10/2012 2:58:09 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: Longbow1969
there is always as much support for Romney's agenda as there was Obama's

As if there was was any appreciable difference.

269 posted on 11/10/2012 3:00:13 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: dforest
You really think that gaggle of illegal immigrant new citizens are going to vote for Palin?

You don't get it, do you? This is NOT about Palin....it's about the GOP-E's utter contempt for Conservatives and the TEA party movement, as demonstrated in its behavior toward the governor over the past four years, with Tuesday's disastrous elections being the end result.

270 posted on 11/10/2012 3:04:24 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: sirchtruth
Every politician who wants to run has to prove they are conservative by following a set standard of by laws.

The first step to accountability:

America's Party Leadership Pledge

271 posted on 11/10/2012 3:05:09 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Blame the voter because the candidate was weak?

You did nothing brave or heroic. You did nothing that mattered one bit by staying home. You are just who you are, an indicator of another stream of ignorance coursing through our broken society. This guy will swing our Supreme Court and lock in all sorts of pain for you and your heirs. You and yours with pop guns are not going to stop that. But so be it. You are who you are and you've been around forever - someone who sees tyranny on the march and does nothing about it - for whatever reasons your type has been conjuring up for generations.
272 posted on 11/10/2012 3:11:07 PM PST by No Left Turn
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To: JRandomFreeper
Blame the voter because the candidate was weak?

You did nothing brave or heroic. You did nothing that mattered one bit by staying home. You are just who you are, an indicator of another stream of ignorance coursing through our broken society. This guy will swing our Supreme Court and lock in all sorts of pain for you and your heirs. You and yours with pop guns are not going to stop that. But so be it. You are who you are and you've been around forever - someone who sees tyranny on the march and does nothing about it - for whatever reasons your type has been conjuring up for generations.
273 posted on 11/10/2012 3:11:21 PM PST by No Left Turn
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To: hopespringseternal

I cast my ballot for Virgil Goode instead of pro abortion, pro gay marriage Mitt Romney and pro abortion, pro gay marriage Barack Obama.

So I supported the only candidate congruent to my beliefs.


274 posted on 11/10/2012 3:20:12 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: dforest
After 4 more years of Obama, a conservative is not ever going to win again.

You are correct. A Jeffersonian liberal or a libertarian will.

275 posted on 11/10/2012 3:21:48 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: JCBreckenridge

This when the GOP platform was more overtly conservative than it has been in years, and great pressure was being put upon Mitt to toe the line, with visible effect.

Yup, I understand. Totally. Meow.


276 posted on 11/10/2012 3:24:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Bigjimslade

I prefer PUSSY

Prolife Unless Someone Says, Y?


277 posted on 11/10/2012 3:25:24 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: Timber Rattler

dforest figures if he says nice things about the GOPe they’ll leave him candy in his stocking.


278 posted on 11/10/2012 3:27:05 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Words < Actions.

Hasn’t Boner already caved on Obamacare?


279 posted on 11/10/2012 3:28:49 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Did Boner ever promise not to?

If you assumed that Mitt would never walk differently, then you brewed up your own self fulfilling prophecy.


280 posted on 11/10/2012 3:33:31 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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