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To: Kaslin
3) The establishment doesn't get to choose the next GOP nominee: What have we been hearing over and over again from the D.C. establishment and the Old Guard in the Republican Party? We have to choose a moderate candidate who runs a bland, safe campaign and doesn't talk about social issues. Well, guess what? We just lost two straight elections against a weak opponent with candidates who fit that mold perfectly. Next time around, we need a full spectrum conservative who can actually inspire people to turn out to vote FOR HIM instead of just AGAINST the Democratic nominee.

Here we go again. The GOPe didn't select Romney or McCain, the primary voters did. Decisively.

Reforming the primary system so that it isn't all or nothing might help, but blaming the GOPe because the voters selected Romney won't.

15 posted on 11/10/2012 4:53:00 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Romney was selected in Michigan by voters who were Democrats going on marching orders from the unions.

Until we close our primaries, this will continue to happen. For some reason, the state GOPee leadership refuses to close the primary.


36 posted on 11/10/2012 5:15:18 AM PST by Mrs. P (Figures can lie, and liars can figure.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Here we go again. The GOPe didn't select Romney or McCain, the primary voters did. Decisively. Reforming the primary system so that it isn't all or nothing might help, but blaming the GOPe because the voters selected Romney won't.

A lot of these opinions annoy me, but this one is the worst. Let's go:

First: Idiots voting is a terrible way to decide anything. In a final-choice election to fill a Federal or state office, especially with two and only two candidates running, I suppose it's at least as good as divine appointment or something else. But to NOMINATE one of many, with the BASIS that this is the strongest one, and the GOAL of winning that later, idiots voting contest? Absurd.

Second: Therefore, in a perfect world, I would do away with primaries. They are a novelty, historically, and they have not served us well. Since I can't do that, I would: ELIMINATE (or not allow the results of) "open" primaries. They can do nothing but harm. RESTRICT voting in a GOP primary to REAL (as opposed to enrolled) Republicans. A real Republican is someone who is active in campaigns, who signs or otherwise acknowledges the platform, or who has donated to the party in the last two election cycles. At a MINIMUM, require party registration for the last four years, consecutively.

Third: Require 2/3 of elected delegates, and 2/3 of appointed delegates (Governors, Senators, and Representatives, State or Federal) to concur in a nominee. The role of the "House of Elected Officials" is to bring the experience of winners into the process.

Your assertion that Romney (who I love, and for whom I am very sad about the bum rap he is about to get) "won" anything decisively is absurd. More than 3/5 of voters in contested primaries, all across the fruited plain, wanted someone else. THIS IS A BAD SIGN FOR THE FALL. Even if Romney had WON, rather than LOST, 60-75% of primary voters, IF THE ANTI-ROMNEY VOTERS COULD NOT BE RECONCILED, THEN HE WAS A POOR CHOICE. It appears that this is exactly what happened.

In summary, the GOP nomination process needs less "democracy", not more (I don't give two sh*ts what the Democrats do), and it MUSTMUSTMUST make it impossible for a plurality (another word for minority) to choose the nominee.

42 posted on 11/10/2012 5:27:24 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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