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More Navy leaders relieved of duty after rowdy port visit
MyNorthwest.com ^ | November 8, 2012 @ 10:32 pm (Updated: 8:31 am - 11/9/12 ) | Linda Thomas

Posted on 11/09/2012 9:25:37 AM PST by RitchieAprile

Drunken behavior during a port visit has led to the dismissal of another Navy commander and three other top officers, days after the leader of the USS Stennis carrier group was sent back to Bremerton.

The Navy hasn't said much about why they've removed Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette from his command October 27. They are conducting an internal investigation involving his judgment.

The Navy is offering more explanation about the commander of the USS Vandegrift, which is a frigate based in San Diego that was built at the Todd Shipyards. This frigate was not with the Stennis carrier group.

Vandegrift Commander Joseph Darlak was relieved of duty one week ago due to "a loss of confidence after displaying poor leadership and failure to ensure the conduct of his officers" while visiting the Russian port of Vladivostok in September.

Translation, according to San Diego media reports - Darlak was part of a "rowdy, booze-fueled port visit."

The ship's executive officer, Commander Ivan Jimenez, was also removed from the ship along with the operations officer and chief engineer, "for personal conduct and use of alcohol."

A Navy release stated, "Inappropriate behavior and judgment in positions of authority are unacceptable."

That phrase "inappropriate judgment" was used to describe the Stennis Rear Admiral also.

A military analyst I talked with a week ago said the Navy is on track to fire a record number of commanders this year for bad behavior.

"The Navy this year has had a spike in firings of these kinds of officers. They've fired over a dozen so far with problems related to offenses about sexual misconduct, alcohol, or some other kind of personal misconduct," says Lyons.

Now 14 commanders have been relieved of duty, which essentially ends their careers.

By LINDA THOMAS


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bremerton; navy
more lapses in command judgement...
1 posted on 11/09/2012 9:25:41 AM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: RitchieAprile

You mean to tell me there’s drinking in the Navy?? I’m shocked.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 9:30:31 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: RitchieAprile

Finally, the open rule of Gays and an end to don’t ask don’t tell has been successful to altering the command stucture of the Navy and the quality of US swabbies/S

Its finally happened.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 9:31:04 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: RitchieAprile

Zero tolerance...I would have most definitely been sent home today for some of my shenanigans as young Sailor (squid) on liberty. But I had a damn good time and no one got in trouble, my how times have changed.


4 posted on 11/09/2012 9:32:46 AM PST by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: RitchieAprile

I read somewhere that that Rear Admiral mentioned, was relieved of duty because he was going to send either a rescue team to Bengazi or a fighter plane strike force.

If that’s true then maybe the ship he was on got rowdy in their first port of call because of being upset at being prevented at trying to save our ambassador.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 9:33:12 AM PST by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: pgkdan

If I got stuck with Commander and Chief for 4 more years, I’d drink myself stoopid.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 9:34:05 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: RitchieAprile

And their school - USNA - has been the source of some pretty raunchy stories in recent years. These guys probably think they are just carrying on the tradition. Bring on those female midshipmen - whoopee!!!


7 posted on 11/09/2012 9:35:03 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: RitchieAprile

Obama wants to purge the military leadership, it’s basically Stalin 1938 without the executions.


8 posted on 11/09/2012 9:35:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: RitchieAprile

Rum and the lash are no longer authorized. In their place, the practice of sodomy will be increased by 66%.


9 posted on 11/09/2012 9:36:31 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: George from New England

After this week I feel like going on a permanent binge. I’d probably be able to get SS disability for alchoholism amd then food stamps and medicaide so why bother working? Sheesh...now I really do need a drink!


10 posted on 11/09/2012 9:37:03 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: dfwgator
Obama wants to purge the military leadership, it’s basically Stalin 1938 without the executions.

He's probably got boy toys lined up to take their places.

11 posted on 11/09/2012 9:39:04 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: RitchieAprile

I’ve got a friend who was on a Tin Can in the mid 70’s.

The tales he tells of his port calls would curl the hair of these modern day sailors.


12 posted on 11/09/2012 9:39:24 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: RitchieAprile

More examples of men who have been promoted to senior leadership who never would have been back in the day. But when you have an administration who doesn’t know or care anything about military tradition or standards of performance, the wrong people can get promoted.


13 posted on 11/09/2012 9:39:59 AM PST by MNnice
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To: Joe 6-pack

“......OH Rip the shirt. How cliche..........”


14 posted on 11/09/2012 9:41:40 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: pgkdan

I suspect that’s one thing in play here.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 9:42:22 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: RitchieAprile

Unexpected....

My grandfather lied about his young age to get enlisted in the Navy at the start of WWII. He served at sea for 20 years. That great man and the ‘real’ men of their time, would be rolling over in their graves if the could see what has happened to their Navy......... and the country they served.


16 posted on 11/09/2012 9:43:47 AM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: elpadre
Not all the stories about USNA are raunchy. I will submit the "Lion of Fallujah" who is no longer with us.


17 posted on 11/09/2012 9:45:11 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: RitchieAprile
I just finished Colon Powell's autobiography. He recalled one drunken brawl on the base that he was involved in. It was handled by the CO without lawyers. He said that if it were to happen in "the new Army", his military career would have been over.

This makes me think orders from the top are to downsize from top to bottom, and start by cherry picking disciplinary incidents to pare down:

"A military analyst I talked with a week ago said the Navy is on track to fire a record number of commanders this year for bad behavior."

18 posted on 11/09/2012 10:03:36 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: PeteB570
“......OH Rip the shirt. How cliche..........”

LOL!!! "... I suppose you're going to have me walk the plank next..."

19 posted on 11/09/2012 10:08:26 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: RitchieAprile

“Failure to control officers” seems like the key phrase here. Even in 2012, I don’t think the Navy expects enlisted sailors to be epitomes of clean living on shore leave ... but if LTs and LTjgs were getting into trouble and were being delivered quayside by local cops after a hard night on the town, that’s a pretty hard problem for their commanders to explain.


20 posted on 11/09/2012 10:28:00 AM PST by only1percent
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To: RitchieAprile; windcliff; stylecouncilor
Remembering Brian, 68-69 Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club

From yesterdays when we yet thought we were winning....

21 posted on 11/09/2012 10:28:00 AM PST by onedoug
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To: RitchieAprile
Commander Dalek sez: "Where is the party?"


22 posted on 11/09/2012 10:39:12 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: onedoug

Brian was a great guy.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 10:42:17 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MNnice

Hardly - Nimitz ran a ship aground and was reprimanded but it didn’t end his career the way it would today. Numerous others in leadership from the past including my own personal witness were party to rabble rousing, skirt chasing, heavy drinking, and plenty of pranks - all of which would cost careers today independent of rank - but they could fight a war. Halsey was known for his skirt chasing and drinking but he knew how to fight. So the standard has changed from the past as to what is acceptable before a career is killed .... the real question is what impact does killing those careers have on the fighting capability of the fleet. Not that there will be much of a fleet anyway once Obama is done...maybe that’s it they’re just gettin an early start on the RIF.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 10:49:45 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: PeteB570
The tales he tells of his port calls would curl the hair of these modern day sailors.
I was USMC arty and after 13 months in VN was sent to Camp Lejeune. Probably 80% of the the battery was recently returned 'Nam vets.
Six weeks later we embarked on a 5 month Carib Cruise along with a battalion of grunts ... of whom, probably 80% were just out of 'Nam too.
We were all so full of pent up anger, anxiety, vinegar & piss, we had a profoundly "negative impact" on every liberty port we went into.
25 posted on 11/09/2012 10:55:17 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: RitchieAprile

This is what happens when you try to go drink for drink with the Russians.


26 posted on 11/09/2012 11:02:10 AM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: RitchieAprile

This is what happens when you try to go drink for drink with the Russians.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 11:02:50 AM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: RichInOC

Curious that higher standards of deportment were not insisted upon given the port call was in Russia. It would seem to me that keeping a higher lever of awareness and alert would be especially important in the port of a rival power.

How many of the sailors have clearances, and how vulnerable is
what they know subject to disclosure under the influence of vodka and/or babes?


28 posted on 11/09/2012 11:12:17 AM PST by RitchieAprile (the obsteperous gentleman..)
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To: pgkdan
You mean to tell me there’s drinking in the Navy?? I’m shocked.

Never noticed any drinking during my two years of reserve active duty. Certainly no rowdy behavior in foreign ports.

29 posted on 11/09/2012 11:22:20 AM PST by Will88
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To: USNBandit

roger - I stand corrected

Actually I have known many academy grads over the years, now retired, all of whom were the finest of men in every way.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 1:16:52 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: USNBandit

Doug was an exceptional man. I have met his Father on several occasions here in New Mexico.


31 posted on 11/09/2012 1:27:28 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
When I was at Annapolis the Deputy Commandant was a relative of one of my good friends. He had a son that was in high school at the time.

The guys that were shot down going to get Marcus Lutrell and his team were led by a SEAL Lieutenant Commander. He was that high school kid I had met when I was a Mid. Despite seeing pictures or him all grown up, I will always think of him as that kid.

This war is a just one, but we are constantly losing people because we won't fight to win. We don't have to lower ourselves to the level of the savages we are fighting. We have need to remember that it is better to be respected than to be liked by the people in those countries.

32 posted on 11/09/2012 2:51:18 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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