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Karl Rove claims President Obama won reelection by 'suppressing the vote'
NY Daily News ^ | 11/8/2012 | Jonathan Lemire

Posted on 11/09/2012 8:43:26 AM PST by dirtboy

The Republican super-strategist was feeling the heat after his shadowy political committees burned through $100 million on anti-Obama attack ads — to little effect.

Republican super-strategist Karl Rove tried to shift blame Thursday for his failed spending spree to defeat President Obama, claiming Obama won reelection by “suppressing the vote.”

Rove was feeling the heat after his shadowy political committees burned through $100 million on anti-Obama attack ads — to little effect.

Obama’s top strategist, David Axelrod, joined the piling on Thursday, chortling that if he were one of the Republican benefactors who bankrolled Rove, he’d be “asking where my refund is.”

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Rove was the brains behind several Super PACs — private groups that can spend unlimited money on political ads — that spent heavily to defeat Democrats, including more than $100 million on ads bashing Obama.

Appearing Thursday on Fox News, Rove insisted that Obama won because he “succeeded in suppressing the vote” with negative ads “that turned off” voters, keeping them from the polls.

Fox News host Megyn Kelly didn’t buy it, interrupting Rove by saying, “But he won, Karl, he won!”

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Hopefully this will be the last election where anyone in the GOP takes Rove seriously.
1 posted on 11/09/2012 8:43:29 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Actually the loss was the sole responsibility
of Rove and Romney and their (McCain) Team.

They attacked conservatives, isolated Gov. Palin
and would not even let her speak at the Convention.
And it cost the election.

Backstabber Rove, however, is 50 million
to 200 million dollars
richer, so he is EAGER to do it again.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 8:45:59 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: dirtboy

Rush was singing this same song yesterday. The ads did not suppress the vote, the takers outvoted the givers (workers). Just give this Tincture of Time and the truth will have to slap these takers up the side of the head. Unfortunately the rest of us will have to suffer too.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 8:48:50 AM PST by Hattie
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To: dirtboy

To Karl Rove’s credit, and this is odd for a republican politican, at least he likes to win.


4 posted on 11/09/2012 8:50:29 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: dirtboy

Doesn’t matter. Rove and Axelrod are on the same team. I am enjoying the show. They amuse me.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 8:50:40 AM PST by ILS21R
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To: dirtboy
Karl


6 posted on 11/09/2012 8:51:23 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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To: dirtboy

> ...”Suppressing the vote”

That makes sense because one can usually tell what the libs/Dems are up to by observing what they are falsely accusing others of doing. As a matter of fact this is a reliable “tell” of their own plans.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 8:51:35 AM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: dirtboy

Rove has been thoroughly discredited as a political guru and the fact that he blew around 100 million through his PAC means we won’t be seeing his mug on TV that much anymore. Even the establishment can’t put up with this loser. He and Dick Morris need to get out of our faces. Neither one of them could predict the winner of a one horse race.


8 posted on 11/09/2012 8:52:18 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: dirtboy

He should shut his mouth, hang his head low and crawl home.


9 posted on 11/09/2012 8:53:04 AM PST by formosa (consider me galt)
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To: dirtboy

I agree with Rove on this but I have no respect for him.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 8:53:04 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: dirtboy

5thGenTexan claims Karl Rove suppressed the vote by helping to foist a RINO on the conservative base once too many times.


11 posted on 11/09/2012 8:53:23 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: dirtboy
Hopefully this will be the last election where anyone in the GOP takes Rove seriously.

At least as seriously as Dick Morris.

Mr. niteowl77

12 posted on 11/09/2012 8:53:30 AM PST by niteowl77 (Getting stuck with other peoples' just desserts good and hard for over 50 years.)
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To: Diogenesis

They attacked conservatives, isolated Gov. Palin
and would not even let her speak at the Convention.
And it cost the election.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Truer words were never spoken, and I commend you. Rush Limbauh has been talking about 3 million lost votes shown by the post election analysis, talking about them as if they comprised the lost 13th tribe of Israel.

The fact is that the Tea Party must take over the GOP, or begin a 3rd Party.

Eff Karl Rove, that closet liberal has wedged his last poll
and needs to join Raiders of the Lost Arc Progressives supported by an equally mufti of poofterism, Dick Morris, who predicted a Romney win with an electoral college vote of 325.

Sarah Palin must fight the GOP and energize the Tea Leaves. Let the crotch kicking commence and damn the undecideds.


13 posted on 11/09/2012 8:54:07 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Diogenesis

Exactly.

And I know Rove enriched himself, presumably by millions, but I don’t think could have been by that much.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 8:55:00 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: dirtboy

I’m so sick of Rove. All of these panzies need to go away.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 8:55:38 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Diogenesis
Yep, but your forgot to credit Drudge speaking for the gay GOP, the rest of Fox News day staff, Ann Coulter and the lying creeps on the Beck channel who pushed Romney..no forced Romney, on a nation of conservatives that wanted anyone..anyone but Romney. Flat out, it was arrogant NY/DC political coalition stupid group-think, now to be know in the future as GOPe.."we think we are too smart for America"...dumb-think.
16 posted on 11/09/2012 8:55:39 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Jyotishi

yep, plus they suppressed the military vote. Now soetoro goes to burma [but stops in hawaii to sign papers for his $35M house which moochelle will arrive at in early december].


17 posted on 11/09/2012 8:56:07 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: dirtboy

He’s right.

The election was basically lost where republicans were thrown out of the polling places filled with black panthers, and where there seems to have been unlimited ballot stuffing.

Not rocket science.


18 posted on 11/09/2012 8:56:55 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: dirtboy

common sense says they suppressed the vote and added to the vote [by any means necessary]. There are no more boundary lines in anything. Cheating and stealing is a way of life for commies.


19 posted on 11/09/2012 8:58:20 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: dirtboy
Rove is intellectually dysfunctional, and long has been. He understands past voting patterns & chases after them. He is utterly--utterly--unable to perceive how to actually change people's opinions on issues. Thus he advised Bush to do just about every thing that later backfired on the Republicans, because while popular at the moment, it was simply unsound, and should have been exposed, not promoted.. He is simply clueless.

See Rove--Dysron, Quack or Mole?.

William Flax

20 posted on 11/09/2012 8:58:21 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Diogenesis

As much as I agree with Palin on her values, she has no chance at POTUS and if she makes a try, she will lose. I just brought up the same issues you raised about the Romney campaign isolating Palin to some older friends on mine 60 - 65 years old men and they agreed with what Romney did to isolate her. If Palin starts to show signs of running for POTUS in 2016, the old white male vote will reject her. IMHO.


21 posted on 11/09/2012 8:59:45 AM PST by klimeckg ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: dirtboy
Obama won reelection the day that elitists like Rove decided that Romney was the GOP's best hope for victory. Unfortunately, Romney may have gotten enough votes to confirm for elitists like Rove the notion that the GOP does best when it nominates a liberal.

We can only pray that we don't do it again.

22 posted on 11/09/2012 9:03:30 AM PST by Tau Food (Praise God. Trust God.)
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To: dirtboy

Well, I was already ‘suppressed’ via a GOP candidate that had a history of supporting gay-adoption, cap-and-trade, Romneycare, and a slew of slimeball political minions trashing and smearing Palin ever since 2008. Not to mention, having a convention that was so disdainful of the Tea Party, they didn’t even allow the words “tea party” be uttered.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 9:06:02 AM PST by greene66
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To: 5thGenTexan
5thGenTexan claims Karl Rove suppressed the vote by helping to foist a RINO on the conservative base once too many times.

5thGenTexan might be more valuable than all the multi-million dollar Bush-Rove-McRomney focus groupers, marketing consultants, and spin doctors put together.

24 posted on 11/09/2012 9:06:24 AM PST by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: dirtboy

I would say it was more like REDISTRIBUTING the vote—it was planned, it was massive. Millions of votes thrown out, “lost” in the mail, or re-directed or deleted by computers, then replaced with multi-votes, dead votes, illegals’ votes, etc.
Then add to that the disgusted, the uninterested, the lazy, the ignorant, the ones too busy being entertained, the drugged, whatever...who voted and who didn’t vote.

Bottom line: Our nation has turned away from God. What can we expect? What can we do about it? “Return to Me that I may return to you.” Zechariah 1:3

It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man or princes (rulers, leaders). Psalm 118:8-9

The fear of man brings a snare, but he who trusts in the LORD will be exalted. Many seek the ruler’s favor, but justice for man comes from the LORD. Proverbs 29:25-26

There is only one way that God has provided by which man can be saved and have a relationship with the living God, our Creator and Sustainer, and that is the Lord Jesus Christ. Acts 4:12: There is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved.”

As an individuals in a nation, this is our only Hope.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 9:06:48 AM PST by TurkeyLurkey
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To: dirtboy

Megyn (is that really how her parents spelled it?) is a pretty stupid human being.

He won, “Me Again” BY suppressing the vote. Therefore, he did not “win” honestly and legitimately.

Check my other posts. I believe the election was stolen not by negative ads (the left always lies) but by digitally converting votes for Romney to Obammie the Commie.


26 posted on 11/09/2012 9:06:48 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: dirtboy

No you lost because you ran another friggin Liberal Republican against a entrenched Big Government Marxist and got run over yet again. If the Republicans want to win national they need to dump the Rove Wing of the party that keeps pushing these moderate candidates on us Conservatives.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 9:07:41 AM PST by Trueblackman (I would rather lose on Conservative principles than vote for a RINO candidate.)
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To: dirtboy

Fine Karl, but do something about it. Crying just make him look like Boehner.


28 posted on 11/09/2012 9:09:35 AM PST by ABQHispConservative
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To: dirtboy

Rove is way overrated. A second rate hack. He barely won the 2000 election and if it wasn’t for the swift boaters, would have lost the reelection in 2004 also. He also presided over the catastrophic loss in Congress in 2006 and the debacle we are still dealing with named Barry.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 9:10:10 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: xzins

Karl Rove is correct. Obama won by shrinking the battlefield.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 9:12:17 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Tau Food
"We can only pray that we don't do it again."

Don't bet on it..the first thing that came out of their mouths yesterday, all day on Fox, is that the party was going to have to open up the tent, and yet when a candidate comes along that goes against the eastcoast elitist insufferable norm....they isolate them and marginalize them.

It appears that the "insiders" lie to themselves as much as they do to America.

31 posted on 11/09/2012 9:12:25 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: dirtboy

Hey Karl. You want to regain some credibility find out how they stole the election.


32 posted on 11/09/2012 9:15:11 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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To: Candor7; Diogenesis

Ever wonder why McCain “inexplicably” got millions more votes than Romney?

My guess is that Sarah Palin had absolutely nothing to do with that. extreme /s


33 posted on 11/09/2012 9:15:11 AM PST by Obadiah (Americans lusted for Obama. Give them Obama! Everything he Constitutionally asks for.)
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To: dirtboy

I can’t quite say the ads criticizing Obama “didn’t work.” Obama got 9 million fewer votes than he got in 2008, and who knows, the ads may have contributed to that erosion. Obviously they didn’t work WELL ENOUGH, though.

As for Rove’s mention of “suppression”: It’s only true if by “suppression” you mean turning off 2 million McCain-in-2008 voters such that those voters didn’t even show up this time. But that’s just a normal part of politics, hoping to depress your opponents’ voter turnout (legally).


34 posted on 11/09/2012 9:18:10 AM PST by pogo101
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To: Ohioan
He is utterly--utterly--unable to perceive how to actually change people's opinions on issues.

As witnessed by the fact that Obama's totals from 2008 to 2012 dropped while Romney was unable to match McCain's totals in 2008. Those disaffected Obama voters largely didn't vote.

The GOP still has their head stuck in 2000 as to running an election. People get sick of phone calls and TV attack ads. You have to come up with new ways to reach potential voters, engage them and sway them to your side. Rove is a direct mail guy. And it shows.

35 posted on 11/09/2012 9:18:43 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

36 posted on 11/09/2012 9:22:57 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: 9YearLurker

I heard yesterday and really don’t remember where but Rove made 33 million off the gig.


37 posted on 11/09/2012 9:24:22 AM PST by sheana
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To: dirtboy
Hopefully this will be the last election where anyone in the GOP takes Rove seriously.

AMEN. He needs to vanish from the scene! And stay vanished!

38 posted on 11/09/2012 9:26:22 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: Diogenesis

What you said is true. But Rove is right about Dem voter fraud. It is open, massive and aggressive now, thanks to Rove ignoring it for so many years while Bush pretended to be above all that “bickering”. The endless recounts until the Dem. candidate won happened over and over again. The false voter registrations, cities with more voters in elections than actually exist... It’s been going on for a long time. Rove totally surrendered to it.

I bet Rove does not do anything about it; just whine now that he has seen it operate openly without any care or legal boundries. Either the GoP enforces the laws on Dems or there is no rule of law. They have no honor nor loyality to anything but power.


39 posted on 11/09/2012 9:26:31 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Hattie

many of the givers stayed home and did not vote- pretty pathetic....


40 posted on 11/09/2012 9:28:21 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: dirtboy

GOP and the P ain’t for Party.

No backbone. No principal. No fight.

NO fight.


41 posted on 11/09/2012 9:28:30 AM PST by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: Perdogg

shrinking because too many fool Republicans sat on the sidelines rather than go out and vote...


42 posted on 11/09/2012 9:30:55 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: dirtboy
"Hopefully this will be the last election where anyone in the GOP takes Rove seriously."

And, hopefully this will be the last election where anyone takes the GOP seriously. "You're fired." They had their shot, and proved they just want to stay in the country club. By any measure, they're done. Toast. Time for a third party. Something with fangs.
43 posted on 11/09/2012 9:31:28 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: dirtboy

Rove is spot on regarding this issue. I’ve worked a couple of campaigns and the general rule is when you go negative your are sacrificing voters who may sway your way because you “went negative,” but you are banking more voters being turned away from your opponent.

Generally most campaigns use models where you largely go positive but use limited negative ads for effect against your opponent. Some analysis of past campaigns revealed that even in the down and dirty 2004 election, John Kerry’s campaign ads were 56% positive, 44% negative, and President Bush went with a similar model. Both candidate largely relied on PACs to put out the majority of negative campaign ads.

In the end President Bush finished with 62 million votes and Senator Kerry with 59 million. So basically between 2004s election and today 5 million fewer voters participated, and to make matters worse there are 20 million more eligible voters than in 2004. So in reality 25 million voters were out there to be mined, but where were they?

Obama and his minders did something unheard of, they ramped up the negativity to outrageous proportions... 86% (yes you read that right) of Obama’s ads were negative and largely ran uncontested. No campaign has ever run a campaign in this manner, and it’s clear what the goal was... to disgust voters with the whole process, and it worked. People were turned off by the negative tenor of the election and simply did not vote. I talked to dozens of Republicans and Independents who said politicians were all the same and they had no intention of voting. Some of my Repub friends drifted over to Gary Johnson.

It’s pretty sad what this administration did to the election process and it’s pretty sad we had a candidate unwilling to fight tooth and nail.

Yancy


44 posted on 11/09/2012 9:31:49 AM PST by gallandro1
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To: dirtboy
Rove did more to suppress the conservative vote than anybody by the way that he maligned conservative candidates.

Since he is so good at suppressing votes maybe the GOPe should put him in charge of all the inner city precincts.

45 posted on 11/09/2012 9:33:09 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Ohioan
He is utterly--utterly--unable to perceive how to actually change people's opinions on issues.

As witnessed by the fact that Obama's totals from 2008 to 2012 dropped while Romney was unable to match McCain's totals in 2008. Those disaffected Obama voters largely didn't vote.

The GOP still has their head stuck in 2000 as to running an election. People get sick of phone calls and TV attack ads. You have to come up with new ways to reach potential voters, engage them and sway them to your side. Rove is a direct mail guy. And it shows.

46 posted on 11/09/2012 9:36:08 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Diogenesis

You know what, you are full of crap. Romney ran a conservative campaign, it fell short, and of course Rove’s ads helped a lot, just not enough.

The nonsense about Palin who DID NOT RUN, is fantasy land.


47 posted on 11/09/2012 9:39:49 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Did you vote for Romney? That’s all I want to know. Because those who didn’t are a lot lower on my list than Karl Rove who put hundreds of milliopns into ads, and yeah he scrambled to the last second looking for a win.

Others just ran their mouths and sold out the USA.

Yeah Karl Rove, who made ads attacking Barack Obama, is the problem. Like hell.


48 posted on 11/09/2012 9:43:05 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: sheana

That’s appalling!


49 posted on 11/09/2012 9:43:15 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Diogenesis
They attacked conservatives, isolated Gov. Palin and would not even let her speak at the Convention. And it cost the election.

They also changed the convention rules to prevent future insurgencies from the grass roots. Screw them.

I didn't vote for Romney - I voted my Libertarian conscience.

How any conservative can have anything whatever to do with the GOP is really beyond me.

50 posted on 11/09/2012 9:43:29 AM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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