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To: OneWingedShark
>”Would they give up claims on Medicare, Medicaid, and Social-Security if it meant the current and future generations would not be saddled with that debt?”<

That is an interesting question. Those programs were imposed on me the day I got my first real job. Over my working life I have contributed around $300,000 if not more, while the results of all that money being invested for the past 45 years would be in the Millions of dollars.

Do I have access to those contributed funds and the resulting investments? Of course not, it's been spent.

Now add to that my personal situation. Diagnosed with Leukemia at age 52. Chemo, Remission, Chemo, sort of Remission, next who knows. I was told to expect to live anywhere from 10 to 15 years after my Diagnosis at age 52.

I am halfway through the best guess and will not be able to collect SS for another three years taking the lowered age 62 (penalized) benefit amount. I am hoping to live long enough to get at least one check. Talk about a Bucket List.

If you are asking if I should give up the money stolen from me to protect future generations, I say no. There are plenty of Programs where the Beneficiaries didn't contribute one thin dime to their funding. Time to start culling the herd with the Makers being the last to sacrifice after the Takers stop taking from them.

Then again, I guess I'm just a bitter clinger who wants his money back from the Obama loving Commie Bastards, which is exactly what the Takers amongst us are.

As my dear Mother always said, you help people that can't help themselves, not people who won't help themselves.

24 posted on 11/08/2012 7:58:41 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Win or lose, Impeach Obama Ben Ghazi...)
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To: Kickass Conservative
That is an interesting question. Those programs were imposed on me the day I got my first real job. Over my working life I have contributed around $300,000 if not more, while the results of all that money being invested for the past 45 years would be in the Millions of dollars.

Do I have access to those contributed funds and the resulting investments? Of course not, it's been spent.

Stolen. Taken from you with the threat of jail and then spent, all against your will.

Now add to that my personal situation. [...] If you are asking if I should give up the money stolen from me to protect future generations, I say no. There are plenty of Programs where the Beneficiaries didn't contribute one thin dime to their funding.

It's ok to get rid of the programs you aren't using, but not the ones you're entitled to.
Do you see where this is going?
Until and unless we as people can love our fellow man enough to give up our claims on things stolen from us we will never significantly cull an entitlement program. When we can see the past as "spilled milk, realize the present is injustice, and fight the future of that injustice is when we will be free from it.

Time to start culling the herd with the Makers being the last to sacrifice after the Takers stop taking from them.

No, we lose when we go that route. They have the ear of "the law" and the government's made it plain that they have no problem redistributing.
What we need to do is show them real love, life-changing, heart-turning love. The sort of love that makes friends of enemies; in short, we need to be the light of the world.

Painful? Yes.
Worth it? I'll ask Jesus when I see him.

30 posted on 11/08/2012 9:24:40 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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